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First of all, a pie must be baked, so that would eliminate omelettes, pancakes, and more from your list. Second, a pie must have a crust and a filling. That eli

First of all, a pie must be baked, so that would eliminate omelettes, pancakes, and more from your list. Second, a pie must have a crust and a filling. That eliminates a lot of the list too. Second, a pie needn't have pastry on both top and bottom. There are numerous pies with no crust on top, such as pumpkin pie, key lime pie, banana cream pie, lemon meringue pie, chess pie, pecan pie, or chocolate icebox pie. These are so similar to pies with crust on top that it is hard to see how a reasonable definition could include one but not the other.

contingencies 10y ago
Interesting view regarding the pastry on top. Would you consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasagne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasagne, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussaka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussaka, and other https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casserole_dishes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casserole_dishes all pies then? Toasted sandwiches are baked and by your definition could still then be pie. If you would argue otherwise, where do you draw the line between baking and toasting?
- mi100hael 10y ago
  No, casserole and pie are different. Casseroles are typically multiple layers and/or a mixture of many ingredients in one pan. Pies have a single, distinct pastry/dough base that contains a filling.
- adrianmonk 10y ago
  While the crust doesn't have to be on both sides, there does still need to be some kind of crust. So that disqualifies lasagna and moussaka, at least in any form I've ever had them. It also probably disqualifies most if not all casseroles, since they don't have a crust, or at least I wouldn't call it that. (In my experience, many casseroles have no breading. But, in those that do, it's usually either mixed in with everything or is lightly sprinkled on top.) I wouldn't consider a toasted sandwich to have a crust because to me a crust is more of a hard pastry layer, not a fluffy piece of bread which has been browned. Though that is a bit of a gray area. If you were to take some fluffy white bread, get it wet, and mash it down into a layer that lines a pie pan, and then put some filling (fruit for example) in it and bake it, and if the bread all hardened together into a cohesive outer shell, then I suppose I'd call that a very unconventional pie. Just to make everything more complicated, there are deep-dish pizzas that have a very pie-like form. There's crust on top and the bottom, and they are cooked in a pan that resembles a pie pan. For example, this: http://winespiritsbeer.blogspot.com/2013/09/beer-crust-deep-dish-pizza.html http://winespiritsbeer.blogspot.com/2013/09/beer-crust-deep-... . Compared to a flat pizza, I think those are more deserving of the word "pie" not only because there is a crust but because the ingredients are more of a filling and less of a topping. Another question is whether a (baked) calzone or empanada is a pie. They certainly meet most of my criteria, so maybe I'd have to say they are.

contingencies 10y ago

Interesting view regarding the pastry on top. Would you consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasagne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lasagne, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussaka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moussaka, and other https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casserole_dishes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casserole_dishes all pies then? Toasted sandwiches are baked and by your definition could still then be pie. If you would argue otherwise, where do you draw the line between baking and toasting?

mi100hael 10y ago
No, casserole and pie are different. Casseroles are typically multiple layers and/or a mixture of many ingredients in one pan. Pies have a single, distinct pastry/dough base that contains a filling.
adrianmonk 10y ago
While the crust doesn't have to be on both sides, there does still need to be some kind of crust. So that disqualifies lasagna and moussaka, at least in any form I've ever had them. It also probably disqualifies most if not all casseroles, since they don't have a crust, or at least I wouldn't call it that. (In my experience, many casseroles have no breading. But, in those that do, it's usually either mixed in with everything or is lightly sprinkled on top.) I wouldn't consider a toasted sandwich to have a crust because to me a crust is more of a hard pastry layer, not a fluffy piece of bread which has been browned. Though that is a bit of a gray area. If you were to take some fluffy white bread, get it wet, and mash it down into a layer that lines a pie pan, and then put some filling (fruit for example) in it and bake it, and if the bread all hardened together into a cohesive outer shell, then I suppose I'd call that a very unconventional pie. Just to make everything more complicated, there are deep-dish pizzas that have a very pie-like form. There's crust on top and the bottom, and they are cooked in a pan that resembles a pie pan. For example, this: http://winespiritsbeer.blogspot.com/2013/09/beer-crust-deep-dish-pizza.html http://winespiritsbeer.blogspot.com/2013/09/beer-crust-deep-... . Compared to a flat pizza, I think those are more deserving of the word "pie" not only because there is a crust but because the ingredients are more of a filling and less of a topping. Another question is whether a (baked) calzone or empanada is a pie. They certainly meet most of my criteria, so maybe I'd have to say they are.