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"Probably" and "I think any court would be friendly" do not cut it, not even close, when your life could end up in ruins.

by Jare 9y ago

Mithaldu 9y ago
In your opinion, what's the difference between a mastodon instance having such contents because a user posted it; and twitter having such contents because a user posted it?
- snerbles 9y ago
  Twitter can afford an army of lawyers.
  - djsumdog 9y ago
    Not only that, companies like Twitter, Facebook, Google and Microsoft have full time people dedicated to dealing specifically with illegal content. They don't have many full-time employees (they can't as these positions often require very specific contracts with the Department of Justice for handling this type of evidence) which has resulted in at least two cases of employees sustaining pretty bad mental health problems: http://mashable.com/2017/01/13/microsoft-employees-sue-ptsd-child-porn/#DL5BmAA6wsq2 http://mashable.com/2017/01/13/microsoft-employees-sue-ptsd-...
- Jare 9y ago
  Twitter can demonstrate a procedure in place to deal with the problem, that is proportional to the size of the problem. An individual's procedures can only be proportional to their available time. The law will still say you should put up a server only if you can comply with the regulations it requires, and a defense based on "I'm doing my best to comply" will fail if your best is not good enough.
Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
"Probably" here explicitly refers to the fact that it's probably not illegal in the country an arbitrary reader is from. Please do not misconstrue my words.
- Jare 9y ago
  I don't have a cross reference of instance owners vs countries where the legality of the material is not clearly guaranteed, but since potentially "dangerous" countries include the US, Canada or the UK, I stand by my assertion.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
    You're still twisting my words and making an irrational point. I said you're probably in a safe country and if so you don't need to freak out. And it's legal in the US.

"Probably" and "I think any court would be friendly" do not cut it, not even close, when your life could end up in ruins.

by Jare 9y ago

"Probably" and "I think any court would be friendly" do not cut it, not even close, when your life could end up in ruins.

Mithaldu 9y ago

In your opinion, what's the difference between a mastodon instance having such contents because a user posted it; and twitter having such contents because a user posted it?

snerbles 9y ago
Twitter can afford an army of lawyers.
- djsumdog 9y ago
  Not only that, companies like Twitter, Facebook, Google and Microsoft have full time people dedicated to dealing specifically with illegal content. They don't have many full-time employees (they can't as these positions often require very specific contracts with the Department of Justice for handling this type of evidence) which has resulted in at least two cases of employees sustaining pretty bad mental health problems: http://mashable.com/2017/01/13/microsoft-employees-sue-ptsd-child-porn/#DL5BmAA6wsq2 http://mashable.com/2017/01/13/microsoft-employees-sue-ptsd-...
Jare 9y ago
Twitter can demonstrate a procedure in place to deal with the problem, that is proportional to the size of the problem. An individual's procedures can only be proportional to their available time. The law will still say you should put up a server only if you can comply with the regulations it requires, and a defense based on "I'm doing my best to comply" will fail if your best is not good enough.

Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago

"Probably" here explicitly refers to the fact that it's probably not illegal in the country an arbitrary reader is from. Please do not misconstrue my words.

Jare 9y ago
I don't have a cross reference of instance owners vs countries where the legality of the material is not clearly guaranteed, but since potentially "dangerous" countries include the US, Canada or the UK, I stand by my assertion.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  You're still twisting my words and making an irrational point. I said you're probably in a safe country and if so you don't need to freak out. And it's legal in the US.