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> Oh right, that's going to make fixing climate change nearly impossible isn't it? I would say we're going to need all the human ingenuity and hard work to tac

> Oh right, that's going to make fixing climate change nearly impossible isn't it? I would say we're going to need all the human ingenuity and hard work to tackle the issues we're facing. Yes, these are very difficult problems, but the reward would be well worth the effort! > I guess if your able to upload your consciousness into a computer or some other some Transhuman fantasy like that it would probably be a much better outcome for the natural world and everyone left in the realm of mortals. I'm all for that technology to be developed in parallel.

bamboozled 9y ago
Ingenuity is one part of it, large scale behavioural and societal changes are what's really in-order though, the less individualistic view. Rich countries sharing the wealth with the poor, investing your money in banks which don't fund exploitative and harmful projects, changing how you travel etc. This is the work that also has to be done by each of us. We always seem to lean on developing new technology to solve our problems and technological development is wonderfully successful, it's a good thing, a fine thing, but we don't use it very well. For example everyone on earth could be fed, but that's not how we operate. It's all common sense though really.
- fizixer 9y ago
  It's funny I seem to have expressed my thoughts on this very recently [1]. Also a FAQ that you might be interested in [2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14205938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14205938 [2] https://carcinisation.com/2014/07/13/an-anti-deathist-f-a-q/ https://carcinisation.com/2014/07/13/an-anti-deathist-f-a-q/
- Arizhel 9y ago
  >For example everyone on earth could be fed, but that's not how we operate. It can't be done really. We've been trying to for decades, but famine isn't caused by a lack of resources, it's caused by political problems. Western nations have been sending food and supplies to impoverished African countries for ages, and it just gets stolen by their leaders and doesn't make it to the people who need it. The only way to fix this is to militarily invade and occupy these countries so we can run them properly, but we can't do that because it's imperialistic. The fundamental problem as I see it is that there's a huge amount of undiagnosed sociopathy in human societies, and most of them are run by people with at least some degree of sociopathy, because they're uniquely skilled at working their way into those positions. The only way I see to fix this is to genetically engineer humans to remove this problem and make them more empathetic. This fix would then have to be forced on everyone somehow, perhaps with a virus.
sametmax 9y ago
Ingenuity MAY solve it in the FUTURE. It's a potential. Limiting our consumption WILL solve it NOW. It's a certainty. We have the power to do it. Just not the will. We loves our steaks and cars.

bamboozled 9y ago

Ingenuity is one part of it, large scale behavioural and societal changes are what's really in-order though, the less individualistic view. Rich countries sharing the wealth with the poor, investing your money in banks which don't fund exploitative and harmful projects, changing how you travel etc. This is the work that also has to be done by each of us. We always seem to lean on developing new technology to solve our problems and technological development is wonderfully successful, it's a good thing, a fine thing, but we don't use it very well. For example everyone on earth could be fed, but that's not how we operate. It's all common sense though really.

fizixer 9y ago
It's funny I seem to have expressed my thoughts on this very recently [1]. Also a FAQ that you might be interested in [2]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14205938 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14205938 [2] https://carcinisation.com/2014/07/13/an-anti-deathist-f-a-q/ https://carcinisation.com/2014/07/13/an-anti-deathist-f-a-q/
Arizhel 9y ago
>For example everyone on earth could be fed, but that's not how we operate. It can't be done really. We've been trying to for decades, but famine isn't caused by a lack of resources, it's caused by political problems. Western nations have been sending food and supplies to impoverished African countries for ages, and it just gets stolen by their leaders and doesn't make it to the people who need it. The only way to fix this is to militarily invade and occupy these countries so we can run them properly, but we can't do that because it's imperialistic. The fundamental problem as I see it is that there's a huge amount of undiagnosed sociopathy in human societies, and most of them are run by people with at least some degree of sociopathy, because they're uniquely skilled at working their way into those positions. The only way I see to fix this is to genetically engineer humans to remove this problem and make them more empathetic. This fix would then have to be forced on everyone somehow, perhaps with a virus.

sametmax 9y ago

Ingenuity MAY solve it in the FUTURE. It's a potential. Limiting our consumption WILL solve it NOW. It's a certainty. We have the power to do it. Just not the will. We loves our steaks and cars.