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It's far from absurd to claim I have knowledge about a group of people that adhere to a doctrine when most of their fundamental beliefs and much of their behavi
by hyperdunc 9y ago
It's far from absurd to claim I have knowledge about a group of people that adhere to a doctrine when most of their fundamental beliefs and much of their behaviors are prescribed by that doctrine.
Even despite such doctrine, people are individuals and we should treat them as such as much as is practically possible. But it can't be denied that individuals tend to mirror those around them.
It is not ignorant to point out trends regarding one particular culture of immigrants and it is not ignorant to note that, in aggregate, the effects of that immigration is negative.
Islam is not like other religions in that it isn't just a personal matter. It is a total solution for how to live and how to organize society in a way that opposes Western secular society. Insofar as Muslims ignore these aspects of their own relgion then we can live peacefully together. Thankfully, very many do.
You seem to be naively optimistic about two things:
- That Middle Eastern Muslims and North Africans in particular will share enough common ground with you that they will necessarily extend your own tolerance back to you rather than seeing you as weak and exploiting you.
- That enough people in your own society will put in the significant effort required to welcome lots of immigrants from these areas and integrate them in a way that overcomes their antithetical values and so avoids the kinds of problems we're now seeing.
Open the doors to mass immigration from these areas and see what happens to your optimism.
If you're unwilling to reduce or stop immigration rates from certain areas on principle, then at least consider that the rate needs to be reduced so that people can be assessed as individuals. That means economic migrants and refugees from the Middle East stay where they are or move to neighboring countries.