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Pirates are not unique in that respect. All mass media is heavily fictionalized. Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell(1807): I will add, that the man who never look

• unavoidable 10y ago
  OT, but, Jefferson appears to have anticipated fake news and the thirst for eyeballs. >To your request of my opinion of the manner in which a newspaper should be conducted, so as to be most useful, I should answer, “by restraining it to true facts & sound principles only.” Yet I fear such a paper would find few subscribers. It is a melancholy truth, that a suppression of the press could not more compleatly deprive the nation of it's benefits, than is done by it's abandoned prostitution to falsehood. Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.
  • ivarious 10y ago
    He was Hamilton's contemporaries, of course he know a thing or two about fake news.
  • beaconstudios 10y ago
    I think it's less that he anticipated fake news, and more that it's always been a problem. Journalism has always been self-serving - after all, it's a business.
    • toyg 10y ago
      But politics and industry are similarly self-serving, and that's what journalism is supposed to balance. Everyone lies all the time, and that's always been the case - after all, they are human.
    • graphitezepp 10y ago
      Certainly, I think it is borderline madness that entities such as facebook are being called out in the current "fake news" discussion, this is far from anything new and does not come from media centralization or the internet.
      • ep103 10y ago
        Its a level of degrees, though
        • graphitezepp 10y ago
          Volume of available information has certainly increased drastically, that is for sure.
      • trelltron 10y ago
        The actual fake news problem is purely a product of the internet though. Traditional media often contains biases of some kind, it's inevitable, but good journalists genuinely try to minimise the impact of that. Previously the only way to get news was through these slow, controlled channels. And the people controlling these channels were responsible for the content being delivered, so if a slanderous lie was published they could be held accountable. But with Facebook I can make up anything I want, frame it as fact, and get it seen by millions of people. Many of whom will believe it if it is convenient for them to believe it. And many of whom will never realise or accept that is a lie. And nothing bad happens to me for sharing these lies, I just make a bit of money from the ads. This is a phenomenon that can only happen with the awesome communication enabled by the internet. And it's much worse than minor press bias.
• throwaway91111 10y ago
  While that is perhaps true, you cannot assume the people around you hold similar views about truth. It is still valuable to understand the mainstream perspective. I say this as someone heavily dissatisfied with the media I pay for.
  • TeMPOraL 10y ago
    > While that is perhaps true, you cannot assume the people around you hold similar views about truth. Which is sad because really, truth is a simple concept. For some reason, many people don't feel like their beliefs should in any way correspond to reality. > It is still valuable to understand the mainstream perspective. I agree that the role of media as social objects (shared things to talk about) is important, but there's a tradeoff here - the more junk you put in your head, the easier it is to hold a conversation with random strangers, but you're still puttting junk in your head. Is socializing really worth it?
• panglott 10y ago
  It's not that all mass media is fictionalized so much as the popular stories about pirates have been fiction. There's no need to conclude that a PBS Newshour story about Somali pirates is fake news because "Pirates of the Caribbean" is so much more popular.