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You didn't present your argument in meme form, not sure you're going to change any minds... When a negative tendency must be negated, there are always people w

You didn't present your argument in meme form, not sure you're going to change any minds... When a negative tendency must be negated, there are always people who pretend the negation is no different. It's a question of what/who not to tolerate, and why -- the answer doesn't fit in an image macro or on a bumper sticker, just as it can't be packaged in a word like "intolerance".

DonHopkins 9y ago
They believe the left not tolerating their "different opinions" cancels out their "different opinions" of not tolerating people because of their race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc.
- YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 9y ago
  A sizeable portion of the modern Left definitely say that believing in the concept of borders and controlled immigration is intolerance – and thus unacceptable – but fail to see that it is an opinion, not a fact. This is one area where the modern Left nears actual fascists, by (conveniently for them) labelling some arbitrary opinions as “invalid”. Another opinion is to call it intolerance to have doors and locks in homes. What, you don't tolerate trespassers there? Should that intolerance be tolerated?
  - DonHopkins 9y ago
    You're attacking imaginary straw men. And you're throwing around words whose definition you don't understand. Instead of stereotyping and attacking large diverse groups of people like you're attempting to do, let's talk about someone who really exists, and whose words are on the record, not a hypothetical subject for debate. Calling Mexicans "rapists" is intolerance. Do you tolerate people who brag about grabbing women by the "pussy"? Is the opinion that you can get away with sexual assault if you're rich a valid opinion?
    - YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 9y ago
      No I'm not (on both counts). But you're switching the subject... (There is nothing to be gained from this discussion, not that I didn't know it from the start.)
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      - DonHopkins 9y ago
        I'm switching the subject back to tolerance and opinions, which you raised, after you tried to divert it to attacking straw men and demonstrating that you don't know the meaning of the word "fascist". Liberals don't think "believing in the concept of borders and controlled immigration is intolerance", they think calling Mexicans "rapists" is intolerance. So why don't you answer my questions? Do you tolerate what Trump does without permission with his tiny little hands to women's "pussies", and do you think the opinion he expressed about being able to get away with sexual assault because he's rich is valid and tolerable?
        YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 9y ago
        Not allowed stances and opinions are certainly a facet of fascism, and the connection I stated earlier is sound. You may want to re-read what I wrote earlier if you think I described someone or some people as fascists. FTR I don't have a problem with consensual sexual acts (including groping).
        DonHopkins 9y ago
        Again, you demonstrate your lack of understanding of the word "fascist". You're saying it's "fascist" to not tolerate Trump sexually assaulting women, just because he holds the opinion (and openly brags about it) that it's ok for him to do that because he's rich, therefore we are required to respect and tolerate his opinion. FTR, Trump was not bragging about "consensual sexual acts", he was bragging about non-consensual sexual assault, and you certainly know that. Why are you being so evasive and coy, trying to divert the conversation, when we both know exactly what I'm talking about? Address Trump's own words that are on the record, not another straw man. And please don't parrot the line about "locker room talk". Do you tolerate Trump non-consensually grabbing women by the "pussy", and do you respect his stated opinion that he can get away with it because he's rich, and believe that's valid and tolerable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "fascist"?

DonHopkins 9y ago

They believe the left not tolerating their "different opinions" cancels out their "different opinions" of not tolerating people because of their race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc.

YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 9y ago
A sizeable portion of the modern Left definitely say that believing in the concept of borders and controlled immigration is intolerance – and thus unacceptable – but fail to see that it is an opinion, not a fact. This is one area where the modern Left nears actual fascists, by (conveniently for them) labelling some arbitrary opinions as “invalid”. Another opinion is to call it intolerance to have doors and locks in homes. What, you don't tolerate trespassers there? Should that intolerance be tolerated?
- DonHopkins 9y ago
  You're attacking imaginary straw men. And you're throwing around words whose definition you don't understand. Instead of stereotyping and attacking large diverse groups of people like you're attempting to do, let's talk about someone who really exists, and whose words are on the record, not a hypothetical subject for debate. Calling Mexicans "rapists" is intolerance. Do you tolerate people who brag about grabbing women by the "pussy"? Is the opinion that you can get away with sexual assault if you're rich a valid opinion?
  - YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 9y ago
    No I'm not (on both counts). But you're switching the subject... (There is nothing to be gained from this discussion, not that I didn't know it from the start.)
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    - DonHopkins 9y ago
      I'm switching the subject back to tolerance and opinions, which you raised, after you tried to divert it to attacking straw men and demonstrating that you don't know the meaning of the word "fascist". Liberals don't think "believing in the concept of borders and controlled immigration is intolerance", they think calling Mexicans "rapists" is intolerance. So why don't you answer my questions? Do you tolerate what Trump does without permission with his tiny little hands to women's "pussies", and do you think the opinion he expressed about being able to get away with sexual assault because he's rich is valid and tolerable?
      - YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 9y ago
        Not allowed stances and opinions are certainly a facet of fascism, and the connection I stated earlier is sound. You may want to re-read what I wrote earlier if you think I described someone or some people as fascists. FTR I don't have a problem with consensual sexual acts (including groping).
        DonHopkins 9y ago
        Again, you demonstrate your lack of understanding of the word "fascist". You're saying it's "fascist" to not tolerate Trump sexually assaulting women, just because he holds the opinion (and openly brags about it) that it's ok for him to do that because he's rich, therefore we are required to respect and tolerate his opinion. FTR, Trump was not bragging about "consensual sexual acts", he was bragging about non-consensual sexual assault, and you certainly know that. Why are you being so evasive and coy, trying to divert the conversation, when we both know exactly what I'm talking about? Address Trump's own words that are on the record, not another straw man. And please don't parrot the line about "locker room talk". Do you tolerate Trump non-consensually grabbing women by the "pussy", and do you respect his stated opinion that he can get away with it because he's rich, and believe that's valid and tolerable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "fascist"?