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As a European this comes as a huge relief, especially given the poorly-timed email leak (with Russian names in the metadata). Here's to hoping that Europe can
by orf 10y ago
As a European this comes as a huge relief, especially given the poorly-timed email leak (with Russian names in the metadata).
Here's to hoping that Europe can continue working together and begin to reform itself, and not tear itself apart like some of our American 'allies' on the (alt-)right would like.
Lots of challenges ahead, but we wouldn't want it to be too easy now would we?
- sparkling 10y agoAny 12 year old kiddie can change meta data on files. Faking meta data to place false clues is intelligence service 101 as documented by many NSA/CIA leaks.
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- cperciva 10y agoSure, but if documents supposedly belonging to French political actors have Russian names in the metadata, it means they were tampered with. It doesn't matter if the tampering was done by Russia or by the USA; either way, those documents are not authentic, which means the whole "look what we found when we hacked his email" story is a fraud.
- petre 10y agoThe leaked data was released too late to have an imapct on the election. Either who released it was really desperate or they seek to blame Russia.
- dirtyaura 10y agoIt still seems that the leak was amplified by alt-right bot networks https://medium.com/dfrlab/hashtag-campaign-macronleaks-4a3fb870c4e8 https://medium.com/dfrlab/hashtag-campaign-macronleaks-4a3fb...
- wsc981 10y agoAs a European I see this as a huge concern. Choosing Macron means keeping the status quo, which means continued mass immigration, continued bad economic policy, etc... in Europe. I am sure the bankers will be glad as will the European Commission and the multinationals, but the common people will become disillusioned in a few years as more and more terrorist attacks will happen into Europe and the problems with the economic policy if the EU will become more visible (the mass printing of money by Draghi and forcing countries buy bad bonds to cover this pyramid scheme). But -for me personally- I'd say it's a good thing. As I stated before, choosing Macron means keeping up with the status quo and I intend to leave Europe for Asia next year (I have an Asian girlfriend and daughter). I do realise that if Le Pen would be chosen now there would be unrest in the Economic markets, the EU, etc... So for me personally it will be a good time to just make a bit more money before leaving permanently. In the end the choice for Macron will only delay the inevitable though. The EU is dead, it just doesn't realise it yet. The only problem is: the longer it takes for the EU to collapse, the messier it will become.
- jjawssd 10y agoHow can one profit off of the collapse of the European Union?
- wsc981 10y agoSoros at one time hedged against the British Pound and he made much profit this way. Perhaps the same could be done w.r.t. the Euro? See: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank...
- petre 10y agoSoros hedged against the Pound/De-Mark peg. I have doubts it can be done to the Euro (too strong) but it can be done to another currency of a weaker economy pegged which to the Euro, for instance the Bulgarian Lev (BGN).
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- Boothroid 10y agoLots not Lot's. No apostrophe needed to make plural :)
- sparkling 10y agoYou seem to assume that without the EU, european countries would no longer cooperate and trade with each other. I don't see that happening. The European Economic Area (EEA) and the Schengen treaty exist independently from the EU. Norway and Switzerland are not members of the EU, yet they trade perfectly fine with others. The EU is simply not necessary for free trade; nor is free trade its main goal. The EU as it is right now is becoming the next Sovient Union. A undemocratic, centralised, bureaucratic superstate that strips the people from their sovereignty, independence, cultural and ethnic traditions. What the EU is trying to do has been done in the past and it has failed.
- mozumder 10y agoWithout the EU, they wouldn't have free labor mobility, limiting business hiring. If you want your business to succeed, you better have a free and open labor pool. This is why economies grow with open borders, because it's more labor efficient. Can you imagine not being able to hire a specialized SQL coder, because the only one available is in Austria, and you're business is in France, and there's no labor mobility? Or did you think labor was a commodity? And that anyone can do anyone else's job?
- polotics 10y agoReplace Austria with Australia in your post, and reconsider the truth value of your EU==Labor Mobility equation ok?
- cthulha 10y agoAustralian here: entry into EU area is a huge plus for jobs in Europe. Australian passports can use Schengen simplified entry and exit borders. We aren't part of EU, but the EU is a very appealing place to work.
- sparkling 10y ago> Can you imagine not being able to hire a specialized SQL coder, because the only one available is in Austria, and you're business is in France, and there's no labor mobility? In France, you can hire a SQL coder straight from Zimbabwe, South Korea, Venezuela or any other place on earth without a problem. The laws are in place and the EU has nothing to do with it.