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> I have a plan and I execute it according to schedule This makes no sense. The single best thing about a phone is removing friction from the last mile and las

> I have a plan and I execute it according to schedule This makes no sense. The single best thing about a phone is removing friction from the last mile and last fifteen minutes of meeting friends. Checking in and fine tuning last minute details is great for friendships. If someone changes venues on you, consider that maybe it accommodated the needs of other members of the group. If someone is late, it's not a problem unless it is a pattern. If it's a pattern, then you know how to plan around it or avoid that friend

pepve 9y ago
Sure, you're totally right. Except where you started your post with "This makes no sense." We all have different social requirements. For some people and in some situations it's awesome to be able to change things ad hoc, for other people and for other situations that just causes stress and discomfort.
dheera 9y ago
As another replier said, everyone has different needs. > Checking in and fine tuning last minute details is great for friendships. I hate this culture of "checking in". If we agree to meet at place X and time T, is it so difficult to just ... actually be there? I remember the life in the pre-smartphone days when things were just that simple. Also, when arranging to meet at a place, I am usually specific. Like, "meet me at the train station in front of the inside entrance to Starbucks at 8:20a". That completely eliminates the need for the stupid rounds of "where are you? can you hear me?" at the actual meeting time. > If someone changes venues on you, consider that maybe it accommodated the needs of other members of the group. What about my needs, which are to concentrate on what I'm doing for the day instead of being glued to my smartphone worrying if the time and place has changed? What if I planned a hike for the day and am without reception? What if I'm on the way, biking or driving, and don't want to look at my phone for safety reasons? What if I'm out of battery but still running according to schedule? In general I consider it disrespectful to change venues last minute, unless someone physically present at the old venue, or a sign is posted is there to inform people who did not see the change of venue. If it's a group of friends meeting at a restaurant that closed, is dietary-wise unsuitable, or something like that, I'd rather just gather everyone at the pre-specified venue first, and then find an alternate venue together.
- submeta 9y ago
  So very true.
- grogenaut 9y ago
  I've had friends call off a meeting because "I wasn't responding on the phone." Moron I'm driving or riding my bike of course I'm not responding. And you didn't call me so I couldn't tell you that, since you're afraid of talking to people over the phone. My motorcycle is set up for hands free operation but phones still generally assume you have a screen active and shift into screen mode and then accept touches in my pocket which makes me pull over and fix the phone. Or simple shit like google not knowing how to "read hangouts" or "send hangout" but able to text. You can tell it's definitely an afterthought feature. I've spent some time getting that all configured but it's not ideal and doens't really survive new phones.
RodericDay 9y ago
I agree and I think the fact that you're getting downvoted stems from the fact that HackerNews is probably not particularly full of social butterflies.
- glibgil 9y ago
  Yep, and the first rule if downvote is apparently not to talk about downvote club

pepve 9y ago

Sure, you're totally right. Except where you started your post with "This makes no sense." We all have different social requirements. For some people and in some situations it's awesome to be able to change things ad hoc, for other people and for other situations that just causes stress and discomfort.

dheera 9y ago

As another replier said, everyone has different needs. > Checking in and fine tuning last minute details is great for friendships. I hate this culture of "checking in". If we agree to meet at place X and time T, is it so difficult to just ... actually be there? I remember the life in the pre-smartphone days when things were just that simple. Also, when arranging to meet at a place, I am usually specific. Like, "meet me at the train station in front of the inside entrance to Starbucks at 8:20a". That completely eliminates the need for the stupid rounds of "where are you? can you hear me?" at the actual meeting time. > If someone changes venues on you, consider that maybe it accommodated the needs of other members of the group. What about my needs, which are to concentrate on what I'm doing for the day instead of being glued to my smartphone worrying if the time and place has changed? What if I planned a hike for the day and am without reception? What if I'm on the way, biking or driving, and don't want to look at my phone for safety reasons? What if I'm out of battery but still running according to schedule? In general I consider it disrespectful to change venues last minute, unless someone physically present at the old venue, or a sign is posted is there to inform people who did not see the change of venue. If it's a group of friends meeting at a restaurant that closed, is dietary-wise unsuitable, or something like that, I'd rather just gather everyone at the pre-specified venue first, and then find an alternate venue together.

submeta 9y ago
So very true.
grogenaut 9y ago
I've had friends call off a meeting because "I wasn't responding on the phone." Moron I'm driving or riding my bike of course I'm not responding. And you didn't call me so I couldn't tell you that, since you're afraid of talking to people over the phone. My motorcycle is set up for hands free operation but phones still generally assume you have a screen active and shift into screen mode and then accept touches in my pocket which makes me pull over and fix the phone. Or simple shit like google not knowing how to "read hangouts" or "send hangout" but able to text. You can tell it's definitely an afterthought feature. I've spent some time getting that all configured but it's not ideal and doens't really survive new phones.

RodericDay 9y ago

I agree and I think the fact that you're getting downvoted stems from the fact that HackerNews is probably not particularly full of social butterflies.

glibgil 9y ago
Yep, and the first rule if downvote is apparently not to talk about downvote club