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When I was young I remember reading about "Tokyo, the city of $11 hot dogs"...this was when a normal hot dog in the states was a buck or two. I never really st
by bane 10y ago
When I was young I remember reading about "Tokyo, the city of $11 hot dogs"...this was when a normal hot dog in the states was a buck or two.
I never really stopped to figure that maybe it was just foreign stuff that was crazy expensive. One of the really eye opening things I've learned in the last few years is how relatively affordable housing can be...even within the Tokyo city limits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbC5j4pG9w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbC5j4pG9w -- older homes can be much much cheaper.
Here's a $1600/mo house https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As2XMhqNBx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As2XMhqNBx8
This needs to be considered against local incomes of course, so they're a bit less tempting to locals than to American foreigners from ultra expensive coastal cities.
Part of this seems to be the particular Japanese combination of the shrinking and aging population + continued attempts at maintaining GDP via construction works + cultural preference for new living arrangements instead of old construction. But like anyplace, you pay for where you live and there are certainly incredibly expensive places to live.
Outside of living arrangements, public transport, food, clothes, and so on...everything except for personal vehicles is relatively affordable on a foreigner's salary.
However, salaries in Japan are surprisingly (sometimes shockingly low). I think I've heard that a person working in a regular "salaryman" job can expect to earn around their age * 10,000 USD. So if you're 30, you'll make around $30k USD. This information is a bit old, so expect it to be a little higher, but this table [1] from 2014 suggests a 32.4 year old computer programmer makes an average of 4,256,000 yen per year..or about $38k. Some occupations can make significantly more...but it's interesting to find yourself on this table and consider it.
1 - http://nbakki.hatenablog.com/entry/Annual_Salary_by_Occupation http://nbakki.hatenablog.com/entry/Annual_Salary_by_Occupati...
- chrischen 10y agoJapan is much more income equal than the US, so a proper comparison would be of average salary. In the US a Google engineer can be making $160k while a teacher in some southern state could be making $50k.
- TheAdamAndChe 10y agoJust so you know, it's worse than you think. Teachers in rural MO make ~$35k/yr.
- VLM 10y agoAnd depending how much you trust your numbers there are ten public school teachers in Mississippi for every google engineer. And there's almost fifty more states full of teachers... And they'll owe roughly the same student loan balance at graduation, well, in theory they would, if not correcting for extreme lack of diversity at Google.
- a_c 10y agoFrom your youtube video, it seems the apartment is around 150~200m^2 Can someone provide some figures on what one could rent in SV?
- Dunan 10y agoYou've got an extra zero in there; it's your age * 1,000 USD. (Can confirm; age 40, 18 years with the company, base salary just over $40k.)
- bane 10y agooops, sorry, you're correct. Got lost converting Yen to USD.
- kalleboo 10y ago> This information is a bit old, so expect it to be a little higher Remember Japan doesn't really have inflation, so... not really. When they raised the sales tax to 8% it was an unexpectedly large problem because so many vending machines suddenly couldn't just charge 100 yen as they had for a decade, and raising by 10 yen (the smallest coin accepted by vending machines) would be too big a raise