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„I hope, E-Mobility will kill German car manufacturers... they (the manufacturers) deserve it“ So the 500.000 people working for VW and their related families

„I hope, E-Mobility will kill German car manufacturers... they (the manufacturers) deserve it“ So the 500.000 people working for VW and their related families (probably clocking in at > 2 million) „deserve“ to loose their job and livelihood because 5 clowns at the top are pulling the strings the way they want? Don't get me wrong...but the problem seems not to be with the manufacturers per se. More about regulating the very top of the ladder inside huge companies like in other sectors of the economy (banking, etc.)

toast0 9y ago
Ignoring the argument for why or if VW should shutdown; if they shutdown tomorrow, wouldn't you expect other automakers to increase production to fill the gap left, and those automakers are going to need more people, and likely more facilities to increase their production. Someone with industry knowledge would probably be able to do good analysis, but the number of people ultimately out of work would be much less than the total number of current workers.
- bigbugbag 9y ago
  Other automakers have been investigated and almost all have been found to cheat on emission tests in one way or another and selling cars that are emitting pollutants way over the legal limits. Besides, the car market has been oversaturated for decades and the car industry has been slowly agonizing for a while. We have way more cars around than we actually need while almost all cars spend over 90% of the time parked and waiting, at the same time most cars in big cities are running around in circles trying to find a place to park.
bigbugbag 9y ago
It's a strange point you're trying to make. Are we supposed to continue polluting the air we breathe with all the consequences on overall economy so half a million people can continue spending (wasting?) their lives making cars ? When the fridge got invented, people selling ice found themselves out of a job, well the car is a significant cause of the global issue we're all facing and as such it has to be fixed or removed. Anyways Germany voted to ban internal combustion engine cars by 2030 and EU is about to put in motion its own plan to do the same by 2050, so jobs in the car industry do not have a bright future. Let's not forget that it is quite possible that in the near future most jobs will be made obsolete and the remaining ones will mostly be related to weak AI.

toast0 9y ago

Ignoring the argument for why or if VW should shutdown; if they shutdown tomorrow, wouldn't you expect other automakers to increase production to fill the gap left, and those automakers are going to need more people, and likely more facilities to increase their production. Someone with industry knowledge would probably be able to do good analysis, but the number of people ultimately out of work would be much less than the total number of current workers.

bigbugbag 9y ago
Other automakers have been investigated and almost all have been found to cheat on emission tests in one way or another and selling cars that are emitting pollutants way over the legal limits. Besides, the car market has been oversaturated for decades and the car industry has been slowly agonizing for a while. We have way more cars around than we actually need while almost all cars spend over 90% of the time parked and waiting, at the same time most cars in big cities are running around in circles trying to find a place to park.

bigbugbag 9y ago

It's a strange point you're trying to make. Are we supposed to continue polluting the air we breathe with all the consequences on overall economy so half a million people can continue spending (wasting?) their lives making cars ? When the fridge got invented, people selling ice found themselves out of a job, well the car is a significant cause of the global issue we're all facing and as such it has to be fixed or removed. Anyways Germany voted to ban internal combustion engine cars by 2030 and EU is about to put in motion its own plan to do the same by 2050, so jobs in the car industry do not have a bright future. Let's not forget that it is quite possible that in the near future most jobs will be made obsolete and the remaining ones will mostly be related to weak AI.