> Would the argument still hold water if he did ? Do you mean mine or his? I think his argument would lose some rhetorical force and be much less persuasive. I

> Would the argument still hold water if he did ? Do you mean mine or his? I think his argument would lose some rhetorical force and be much less persuasive. If you mean something else then please clarify as I don't quite follow. > Tell that to the leftists in US who go around shouting that Trump lost the popular vote I'm not sure how the existence of that group is relevant here. Surely if anything they underscore my point from the other side of the fence? I'm not claiming "this only happens to the side I disagree with" if that's what you're implying.