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> Ultimate arbiter? Nobody. Please tell me, who do you think is the ultimate arbiter? Do you think one individual in the crowd was the ultimate arbiter? What is

> Ultimate arbiter? Nobody. Please tell me, who do you think is the ultimate arbiter? Do you think one individual in the crowd was the ultimate arbiter? What is their name? Ah, got it, silencing voices is ok as long as it's done by a crowd. Out of morbid curiosity, what happens when that crowd becomes a majority and they continue silencing minorities? > If a crowd of people were that crazy about getting me to not speak at their college, I would happily leave and find another place, and write a Medium post about my views, not crying that people don't like me and don't want to hear them. Is this an immediate self-contradiction? It seems like an immediate self-contradiction. > Why are the preferences of the speaker and those who invited them more important than those of the protestor? Nobody's rights are violated by letting someone talk.

jamescostian 9y ago
> Out of morbid curiosity, what happens when that crowd becomes a majority and they continue silencing minorities? I hope those minorities find ways to express themselves. If they can get to their local public library and write a post on Medium, maybe they can change the world. Or be shunned by it. > Is this an immediate self-contradiction? It seems like an immediate self-contradiction. I just looked over it, and I don't see how writing a medium post or looking for a new venue are contradicting anything. Do you mean that "crying that people don't like me" contradicts writing a post on Medium? Because I actually wrote "write a Medium post about my views" - the post wouldn't be a whining piece, rather, it's what I would have liked to have said at the university. I'm gonna need an explanation on how I contradicted myself > Nobody's rights are violated by letting someone talk. I feel like this sentence might be contradicting your views. Do you feel like the rights of Mac Donald were not violated by her allowing protestors to protest?
- julianmarq 9y ago
  > I hope those minorities find ways to express themselves. If they can get to their local public library and write a post on Medium, maybe they can change the world. Or be shunned by it. So your solution is an eternal cicle in which a group of people will always be silenced and forced to specific ways to express their views, slowly gain traction, become accepted, start silencing and forcing other groups into using specific ways to express their views, rinse and repeat? That's literally not progress. > I just looked over it, and I don't see how writing a medium post or looking for a new venue are contradicting anything. Do you mean that "crying that people don't like me" contradicts writing a post on Medium? Because I actually wrote "write a Medium post about my views" - the post wouldn't be a whining piece, rather, it's what I would have liked to have said at the university. Ah, so it was a self-contradiction. Thanks. > I feel like this sentence might be contradicting your views. Do you feel like the rights of Mac Donald were not violated by her allowing protestors to protest? No, they were, the problem is that they weren't merely talking; they literally barricaded the building and expressed intent of violence if the talk were to be given. But I know exactly why you pretending that giving a talk and doing everything they did is the same. Your mind wouldn't be able to accommodate the alternative as it would force you to rethink it. Cheers.

jamescostian 9y ago

> Out of morbid curiosity, what happens when that crowd becomes a majority and they continue silencing minorities? I hope those minorities find ways to express themselves. If they can get to their local public library and write a post on Medium, maybe they can change the world. Or be shunned by it. > Is this an immediate self-contradiction? It seems like an immediate self-contradiction. I just looked over it, and I don't see how writing a medium post or looking for a new venue are contradicting anything. Do you mean that "crying that people don't like me" contradicts writing a post on Medium? Because I actually wrote "write a Medium post about my views" - the post wouldn't be a whining piece, rather, it's what I would have liked to have said at the university. I'm gonna need an explanation on how I contradicted myself > Nobody's rights are violated by letting someone talk. I feel like this sentence might be contradicting your views. Do you feel like the rights of Mac Donald were not violated by her allowing protestors to protest?

julianmarq 9y ago
> I hope those minorities find ways to express themselves. If they can get to their local public library and write a post on Medium, maybe they can change the world. Or be shunned by it. So your solution is an eternal cicle in which a group of people will always be silenced and forced to specific ways to express their views, slowly gain traction, become accepted, start silencing and forcing other groups into using specific ways to express their views, rinse and repeat? That's literally not progress. > I just looked over it, and I don't see how writing a medium post or looking for a new venue are contradicting anything. Do you mean that "crying that people don't like me" contradicts writing a post on Medium? Because I actually wrote "write a Medium post about my views" - the post wouldn't be a whining piece, rather, it's what I would have liked to have said at the university. Ah, so it was a self-contradiction. Thanks. > I feel like this sentence might be contradicting your views. Do you feel like the rights of Mac Donald were not violated by her allowing protestors to protest? No, they were, the problem is that they weren't merely talking; they literally barricaded the building and expressed intent of violence if the talk were to be given. But I know exactly why you pretending that giving a talk and doing everything they did is the same. Your mind wouldn't be able to accommodate the alternative as it would force you to rethink it. Cheers.