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I keep trying these (Canary, Polymail, Spark, Airmail), and they all disappoint in some way, and I always end up going back to trusty old Apple Mail. One big p

I keep trying these (Canary, Polymail, Spark, Airmail), and they all disappoint in some way, and I always end up going back to trusty old Apple Mail. One big point for me: Except for Airmail, none of the new "minimalist" mail apps do plaintext. They all force you to send as HTML. I would love for "rich" email to work, but it's not nice the way current clients do it. In particular, I think it's incredibly presumptuous for the sender to specify which font the recipient should read the text in. My favourite mail client ever was Sparrow, until Google killed it.

SnowingXIV 9y ago
I feel like you're me. I've the exact same experiences and I keep trying something else but they fall flat and often miss some basic (important) features. Always going back to Apple mail.
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  Heh. Did you try Airmail? That's the only one that I liked. The only reason I'm not using it today is that I was using the beta, and at one point they did a lot of frequent bugfix releases, and each new release started to require that you set up all your settings (mail accounts etc.) from scratch. I got tired of it and abandoned the thing. I'm sure it's better now, I just haven't felt like going through all the steps again yet. Airmail does plaintext email, too.
mablap 9y ago
Hey, I know someone working on a plaintext email service which should be encrypted by default, without attachments. I can post to HN if/when it's public.
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  What is a "plaintext email service"? Is it a native Mac/iOS app?
  - mablap 9y ago
    Standard SMTP and IMAP but only plaintext is allowed, no attachments. If it works out it will be encrypted by default with a privkey + passphrase upon account creation, and you can of course encrypt on your own on top of the defaults.
ubernostrum 9y ago
I keep coming back to Postbox. The underlying engine is a bit more reliable, the PGP support is a bit better, and it's still a nice-to-use Mac app.
- whorleater 9y ago
  Mailmate for me. It was good when it had that dumb brown icon, it's even better now

SnowingXIV 9y ago

I feel like you're me. I've the exact same experiences and I keep trying something else but they fall flat and often miss some basic (important) features. Always going back to Apple mail.

lobster_johnson 9y ago
Heh. Did you try Airmail? That's the only one that I liked. The only reason I'm not using it today is that I was using the beta, and at one point they did a lot of frequent bugfix releases, and each new release started to require that you set up all your settings (mail accounts etc.) from scratch. I got tired of it and abandoned the thing. I'm sure it's better now, I just haven't felt like going through all the steps again yet. Airmail does plaintext email, too.

mablap 9y ago

Hey, I know someone working on a plaintext email service which should be encrypted by default, without attachments. I can post to HN if/when it's public.

lobster_johnson 9y ago
What is a "plaintext email service"? Is it a native Mac/iOS app?
- mablap 9y ago
  Standard SMTP and IMAP but only plaintext is allowed, no attachments. If it works out it will be encrypted by default with a privkey + passphrase upon account creation, and you can of course encrypt on your own on top of the defaults.

ubernostrum 9y ago

I keep coming back to Postbox. The underlying engine is a bit more reliable, the PGP support is a bit better, and it's still a nice-to-use Mac app.

whorleater 9y ago
Mailmate for me. It was good when it had that dumb brown icon, it's even better now