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The article is so wrong that I don't know where to start... First there is a whole spectrum of people interested on adventure, breaking frontiers, understandin

The article is so wrong that I don't know where to start... First there is a whole spectrum of people interested on adventure, breaking frontiers, understanding science from outside the conditions on Earth, not just N-E-R-D-S. It reminds me when I was in the US and two very prominent politicians were arguing on TV against each other about who was less of a nerd, have no relationship with them, like they were a pest or something. It was like the stereotype of empty brain US football player who gets all the chicks by downplaying all people smarter than them and caring only about looks. The challenges and adventure of not having water, facing problems like living on Venus clouds, etc.. are exactly the main reasons to go there. Doing what no other person has done ever has lots of advantages for the individuals doing it and human society as a hole. For example when the first vehicles were sent to the moon we were able to discover that most rocks or sand were not affected by erosion or air pressure so they had properties not seen on Earth.

Existenceblinks 9y ago
Hmm, challenges and adventure are keywords. And they are exactly the primary reasons most _nerds_ seem to have. Sorry but I can't imply any of "lots of advantages" for human society although I can imagine some. Observing and exploring the Galaxy definitely have a lot of benefit to science. I don't like Capitalism much but is it worth burning that size of budget or money that comes from somewhere ..? The point should be things have to be analyzed and measured, and what we would have in return.
candiodari 9y ago
> First there is a whole spectrum of people interested on adventure, breaking frontiers, understanding science from outside the conditions on Earth That's also not what colonizing is about. Rocket energy costs mean we'll never, ever lift more than at most a few thousand people out of earth gravity. Never. Not even with reusable rockets. 99.99% of the human population, at minimum, can never leave the earth. > The challenges and adventure of not having water, facing problems like living on Venus clouds, etc.. are exactly the main reasons to go there. Doing what no other person has done ever has lots of advantages for the individuals doing it and human society as a hole. The whole point of colonization is never coming back. It won't be about science for at least a couple generations. It'll be about babies, food and building extremely basic structures. Those babies, incidentally, will be thoroughly fucked compared with babies on earth : They'll be locked in a small structure that they can never leave. And of course the project is dependent on them having at least 5-6 babies per couple, preferably more. They can never go to earth, ever. Hell, they can't ever so much as talk to anyone outside of their society that will be tens of people for a generation (because of the delay). > For example when the first vehicles were sent to the moon we were able to discover that most rocks or sand were not affected by erosion or air pressure so they had properties not seen on Earth. We knew those properties long before humans ever set foot on the moon.

Existenceblinks 9y ago

Hmm, challenges and adventure are keywords. And they are exactly the primary reasons most _nerds_ seem to have. Sorry but I can't imply any of "lots of advantages" for human society although I can imagine some. Observing and exploring the Galaxy definitely have a lot of benefit to science. I don't like Capitalism much but is it worth burning that size of budget or money that comes from somewhere ..? The point should be things have to be analyzed and measured, and what we would have in return.

candiodari 9y ago

> First there is a whole spectrum of people interested on adventure, breaking frontiers, understanding science from outside the conditions on Earth That's also not what colonizing is about. Rocket energy costs mean we'll never, ever lift more than at most a few thousand people out of earth gravity. Never. Not even with reusable rockets. 99.99% of the human population, at minimum, can never leave the earth. > The challenges and adventure of not having water, facing problems like living on Venus clouds, etc.. are exactly the main reasons to go there. Doing what no other person has done ever has lots of advantages for the individuals doing it and human society as a hole. The whole point of colonization is never coming back. It won't be about science for at least a couple generations. It'll be about babies, food and building extremely basic structures. Those babies, incidentally, will be thoroughly fucked compared with babies on earth : They'll be locked in a small structure that they can never leave. And of course the project is dependent on them having at least 5-6 babies per couple, preferably more. They can never go to earth, ever. Hell, they can't ever so much as talk to anyone outside of their society that will be tens of people for a generation (because of the delay). > For example when the first vehicles were sent to the moon we were able to discover that most rocks or sand were not affected by erosion or air pressure so they had properties not seen on Earth. We knew those properties long before humans ever set foot on the moon.