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As a side note, I'm always surprised when I see the word "alt-right". When did that happen? I still use the word "fascists", although I understand it can be too
by oelmekki 9y ago
As a side note, I'm always surprised when I see the word "alt-right". When did that happen? I still use the word "fascists", although I understand it can be too strong a word for many, but those can use "far right".
- dogma1138 9y agoFascists can just as easily be used for many of those on the left too.
- digi_owl 9y agoFascism was/is in a sense socialism/communism for the rich and corporations...
- DiNovi 9y agodisaffected young men lacking strong in-person relationships doomed to a life of desperation due to lack of opportunity united online in praise of cartoon frogs and white supremacist fascism. History books are gonna be weird.
- mhneu 9y agoAlso those online communities are targeted by manipulation by foreign groups that want to polarize and weaken our society. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/30/russia-s-info-war-on-the-u-s-started-in-2014.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/30/russia-s-in...
- DiNovi 9y agoYes, voiceless minority groups can be more easily targeted and taken advantage of. I read just yesterday about Somali immigrants being turned anti-vax in a matter of years due to outside influence, this is no different.
- tajen 9y agoI love your description because each word designates both problems and solutions. History books will go further and further: "WWI was triggered by an assassination in Sarajevo", "WWII was born in the black Thursday", and the next events "find their source in the solitude of some men with a computer, and we couldn't solve that. Solitude kills, after all.". Assuming the next event is related to alt-rights, of course.
- pasiaj 9y agoBecause alt-right carries carries more information and is more accurate. Even though "alt-right" is less precisely defined, it is in many cases more accurate a term than "facist" or "far right". To me, alt-right is a combination of anti-establishment Republicans, fascists, libertarians, internet trolls (& governmental operatives trying to influence foreign elections). To me the grassroots part of alt-right is more a reaction than ideology; something born out of the financial crisis and its' aftermath. If you want to view them purely as fascists, that's your prerogative, but using THAT word would be less accurate and would lose a lot of nuance.
- DiNovi 9y agoreactionsim is itself an ideology; it's basically just nihilism.
- oelmekki 9y ago> To me the grassroots part of alt-right is more a reaction than ideology; something born out of the financial crisis and its' aftermath. Indeed, there seems to be something of historical importance, here. Although, I think there _is_ something that acts as an ideological bound rather than being just a group of "anti" people. In France, there's historically always been two right wings, even without considering the far right : the liberals (mainly interested about economics and free market) and the conservatives (mainly interested about authority). Could it be a distinction that exists all over the world, the liberals were dominant and they're losing ground? By the way, we call here the authority focused ones "bonapartists" (this is not seen as pejorative or insulting, although slightly disturbing).
- davidgerard 9y agoIt's a specific subculture of them. Making fine delineations between far-righters, white nationalists and neo-Nazis is usually meaningless because functionally they're much of a muchness - but the alt-right is a particular strain of them that can be distinguished somewhat.