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Trying to make a pretty book lamp

85 points by zecken 9y ago

eps 9y ago
Nice idea, interesting project, but repeated dad bashing is a bit off-putting.
- MrQuincle 9y ago
  I don't know if eps is your dad, but I thought it was not too bad. :-) You probably have a good relationship with him from my interpretation of the situation. As a "standing lamp" to have a wireless charging option would be cool. Or the USB cable should be used to make it hang from the ceiling. Nice work!
zoidb 9y ago
"electrical engineers seem to be in the biz basically only to make lights turn on or blink." or for writing about the build process :)
- yitchelle 9y ago
  > or writing about the build process Those are for EE engineers turn SW engineers...
Broken_Hippo 9y ago
Nice work, and nice end product. This is exactly the sort of thing I'd not only have in my house, but would be happy to give to others.
IgorPartola 9y ago
Wasn't there a thing like this on Shark Tank?
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- pmorici 9y ago
  Yes, the product being cloned in this blog post, Lumio, was pitched on Shark Tank.
franciscop 9y ago
It looks like in the original the top-bottom of the pages js glued together and the inside of the pages is cut-off. That'd probably make it better at difussing the light.
wiradikusuma 9y ago
I'm a software engineer trying to learn hardware. I noticed in the article, the author drew some schematics. These days, I don't use UML to write apps (everything in my head as I do everything myself anyway, and sometimes I write comments and unit tests), but I remember it being useful during my early days of programming. I'm thinking, since this is my early days of hardware, I should use write schematics (just like I did with UML). Is that a good idea? Where to get started?
- frumiousirc 9y ago
  The http://fritzing.org/ http://fritzing.org/ application has helped me diagram how to make some simple projects. The mix of physical and logical was useful for me as the circuit boards I used comprised part of the physical design.
- jakecopp 9y ago
  I find sketching schematics for hardware is a lot more natural than sketching UML, and they're super helpful for making sense of a rat's nest of wires. I can't recommend them enough! I'm a big fan of using paper, it's quite efficient and easy to edit. I only use a design app to present the schematic. Most electronics books will teach you the basics, but this StackExchange answer is a good summary too: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/28251/rules-and-guidelines-for-drawing-good-schematics https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/28251/rules-...
- manyxcxi 9y ago
  I started university as EE, and wound up graduating with Computer Engineering (basically 50/50 EE and CS). 95% of my professional work has been nothing but software, but I've got some (laughably simple) professional hardware experience. I literally can't keep my head straight without sketching some schematics. It's also super helpful when I'm prototyping and tear down a component to build something else (say, to reuse a microprocessor or expensive component like a GSM module) but then I want to go back to that first setup I had previously. Try asking someone who really knows what they're doing for some non-trivial help and show them your rat's nest and no diagram and watch smoke pour from their ears as they try and remain calm and helpful. I think you're on to a good idea though, the UML you practiced provided value (likely not because we all love UML) but it forced you to meditate (for lack of a better word) on design choices and decisions. You began iterating in your head and built some good reflexes. You were practicing your craft in a more robust fashion. I can't imagine spending time with schematics won't be helpful.
jakecopp 9y ago
Travelling to SFMOMA (from Sydney) I came across the Lumio books and I found them absolutely gorgeous. As a poor college student the price was very steep though. That article definitely inspired me to have a crack at making my own! An open-source PCB/laser cut paper book light project like the Lumio sounds like a great idea - if anyone knows of other builds I'd love to see.
pmorici 9y ago
I don't understand why he went though all the trouble of designing and printing that 3d box but didn't make a professional PCB. If it were me I would have done a PCB before even considering that box and just mounted the PCB directly in the book.
- mdorazio 9y ago
  Making a custom PCB is much more difficult than printing up an enclosure. And more costly if you don't have all the tooling already. For a small one-off DIY project like this, it completely makes sense.
  - pmorici 9y ago
    Not really. A board for the book spine would have been like 4 square inches. You can get three copies of a board for $5 per square inch from OSHpark so $20 total. I doubt 3d printing something of that size is any cheaper.
    - mdorazio 9y ago
      I think you misunderstand 3d printing costs and time. $20 gets you an entire kilo of standard plastic for printing. I highly doubt his enclosure setup took more than 50 grams to print, or about $1 total. Total printing time was likely under 5 hours. PCBs are over an order of magnitude more expensive and generally have a two week lead time unless you fab them yourself on a cnc or laser setup. Also, what do you do if you realize you messed up something in your PCB setup? You have to wait for a whole new batch or else toss it and wire manually anyway. With 3D printing, you just modify the model and print a new version in a couple hours. For one-off prototypes like this a custom PCB is a really iffy proposition.
      - pmorici 9y ago
        Only if you already invested several grand in a 3D printer. A service like shapeways is similar cost and time to getting a pcb made. A pcb milling game machine is the same cost as a 3D printer.
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tibyat 9y ago
give your dad a break!
noonespecial 9y ago
A quick observation: The reed switch might have been "sticky" not because of the strength of the magnet, but because of the current all those lights required. For any given reed switch, there's a current that will keep it from disengaging once it engages. Reed switches are generally considered signal devices, not current switches for this reason.
altano 9y ago
You are placing a burden on people you gift things to that diminishes the value of receiving gifts from you. It's like giving a friend a painting and then holding the friendship hostage unless they hang it up as their living room centerpiece. I find it rewarding to give people things. I find joy in the act of giving and how the other person might feel by receiving the item. If they use the thing for a week and then and throw it away, it doesn't diminish the act of having given it to them. If anything it makes me briefly reflect on how I can give a more useful gift next time. So you've now given your dad a gift, he lost it and feels terrible about it, and you're chastising him in iMessage and on the internet, ensuring that he feels even more awful. The next time you give him something it'll be accompanied by a sense of anxiety and dread. Unless you think he was intentionally careless with the gift out of malice, why don't you stop being an asshole for a second and console him instead.
- bignell 9y ago
  The author shares one snapshot of one brief interaction with someone, for the purpose of humor, and you think that entitles you to judge the entire relationship? I feel like your reaction reflects more on you than the author.
  - altano 9y ago
    How do you think his dad would feel if he saw this article?

85 points by zecken 9y ago

eps 9y ago

Nice idea, interesting project, but repeated dad bashing is a bit off-putting.

MrQuincle 9y ago
I don't know if eps is your dad, but I thought it was not too bad. :-) You probably have a good relationship with him from my interpretation of the situation. As a "standing lamp" to have a wireless charging option would be cool. Or the USB cable should be used to make it hang from the ceiling. Nice work!

zoidb 9y ago

"electrical engineers seem to be in the biz basically only to make lights turn on or blink." or for writing about the build process :)

yitchelle 9y ago
> or writing about the build process Those are for EE engineers turn SW engineers...

Broken_Hippo 9y ago

Nice work, and nice end product. This is exactly the sort of thing I'd not only have in my house, but would be happy to give to others.

IgorPartola 9y ago

Wasn't there a thing like this on Shark Tank?

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pmorici 9y ago
Yes, the product being cloned in this blog post, Lumio, was pitched on Shark Tank.

franciscop 9y ago

It looks like in the original the top-bottom of the pages js glued together and the inside of the pages is cut-off. That'd probably make it better at difussing the light.

wiradikusuma 9y ago

I'm a software engineer trying to learn hardware. I noticed in the article, the author drew some schematics. These days, I don't use UML to write apps (everything in my head as I do everything myself anyway, and sometimes I write comments and unit tests), but I remember it being useful during my early days of programming. I'm thinking, since this is my early days of hardware, I should use write schematics (just like I did with UML). Is that a good idea? Where to get started?

frumiousirc 9y ago
The http://fritzing.org/ http://fritzing.org/ application has helped me diagram how to make some simple projects. The mix of physical and logical was useful for me as the circuit boards I used comprised part of the physical design.
jakecopp 9y ago
I find sketching schematics for hardware is a lot more natural than sketching UML, and they're super helpful for making sense of a rat's nest of wires. I can't recommend them enough! I'm a big fan of using paper, it's quite efficient and easy to edit. I only use a design app to present the schematic. Most electronics books will teach you the basics, but this StackExchange answer is a good summary too: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/28251/rules-and-guidelines-for-drawing-good-schematics https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/28251/rules-...
manyxcxi 9y ago
I started university as EE, and wound up graduating with Computer Engineering (basically 50/50 EE and CS). 95% of my professional work has been nothing but software, but I've got some (laughably simple) professional hardware experience. I literally can't keep my head straight without sketching some schematics. It's also super helpful when I'm prototyping and tear down a component to build something else (say, to reuse a microprocessor or expensive component like a GSM module) but then I want to go back to that first setup I had previously. Try asking someone who really knows what they're doing for some non-trivial help and show them your rat's nest and no diagram and watch smoke pour from their ears as they try and remain calm and helpful. I think you're on to a good idea though, the UML you practiced provided value (likely not because we all love UML) but it forced you to meditate (for lack of a better word) on design choices and decisions. You began iterating in your head and built some good reflexes. You were practicing your craft in a more robust fashion. I can't imagine spending time with schematics won't be helpful.

jakecopp 9y ago

Travelling to SFMOMA (from Sydney) I came across the Lumio books and I found them absolutely gorgeous. As a poor college student the price was very steep though. That article definitely inspired me to have a crack at making my own! An open-source PCB/laser cut paper book light project like the Lumio sounds like a great idea - if anyone knows of other builds I'd love to see.

pmorici 9y ago

I don't understand why he went though all the trouble of designing and printing that 3d box but didn't make a professional PCB. If it were me I would have done a PCB before even considering that box and just mounted the PCB directly in the book.

mdorazio 9y ago
Making a custom PCB is much more difficult than printing up an enclosure. And more costly if you don't have all the tooling already. For a small one-off DIY project like this, it completely makes sense.
- pmorici 9y ago
  Not really. A board for the book spine would have been like 4 square inches. You can get three copies of a board for $5 per square inch from OSHpark so $20 total. I doubt 3d printing something of that size is any cheaper.
  - mdorazio 9y ago
    I think you misunderstand 3d printing costs and time. $20 gets you an entire kilo of standard plastic for printing. I highly doubt his enclosure setup took more than 50 grams to print, or about $1 total. Total printing time was likely under 5 hours. PCBs are over an order of magnitude more expensive and generally have a two week lead time unless you fab them yourself on a cnc or laser setup. Also, what do you do if you realize you messed up something in your PCB setup? You have to wait for a whole new batch or else toss it and wire manually anyway. With 3D printing, you just modify the model and print a new version in a couple hours. For one-off prototypes like this a custom PCB is a really iffy proposition.
    - pmorici 9y ago
      Only if you already invested several grand in a 3D printer. A service like shapeways is similar cost and time to getting a pcb made. A pcb milling game machine is the same cost as a 3D printer.

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tibyat 9y ago

give your dad a break!

noonespecial 9y ago

A quick observation: The reed switch might have been "sticky" not because of the strength of the magnet, but because of the current all those lights required. For any given reed switch, there's a current that will keep it from disengaging once it engages. Reed switches are generally considered signal devices, not current switches for this reason.

altano 9y ago

You are placing a burden on people you gift things to that diminishes the value of receiving gifts from you. It's like giving a friend a painting and then holding the friendship hostage unless they hang it up as their living room centerpiece. I find it rewarding to give people things. I find joy in the act of giving and how the other person might feel by receiving the item. If they use the thing for a week and then and throw it away, it doesn't diminish the act of having given it to them. If anything it makes me briefly reflect on how I can give a more useful gift next time. So you've now given your dad a gift, he lost it and feels terrible about it, and you're chastising him in iMessage and on the internet, ensuring that he feels even more awful. The next time you give him something it'll be accompanied by a sense of anxiety and dread. Unless you think he was intentionally careless with the gift out of malice, why don't you stop being an asshole for a second and console him instead.

bignell 9y ago
The author shares one snapshot of one brief interaction with someone, for the purpose of humor, and you think that entitles you to judge the entire relationship? I feel like your reaction reflects more on you than the author.
- altano 9y ago
  How do you think his dad would feel if he saw this article?