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The only comments from the LGBT community that I've seen are that they found it funny and not homophobic. It seems to be the Republicans who are calling it homo

The only comments from the LGBT community that I've seen are that they found it funny and not homophobic. It seems to be the Republicans who are calling it homophobic.

jmcdiesel 10y ago
The irony there...
blackflame7000 10y ago
This story was on the front page of yahoo.com, a left-centrist publication, yesterday: https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-hot-water-over-homophobic-donald-trump-201551070.html https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-hot-water-over-homo... In today's age its a bad bet to assume something isn't offensive to anyone.
- lawnchair_larry 10y ago
  But that isn't what's happening here and you know it. You're a Trump supporter, that's cool, but please drop the concern trolling. You're not offended, you're just being opportunistic.
  - blackflame7000 10y ago
    I'm not offended and never said I was. I was merely pointing out that an article citing a bunch of tweets from offended people was the cover story on yahoo yesterday, in response to a comment saying no one was offended except republicans.
    - lawnchair_larry 10y ago
      I encourage you to take a look at those "offended" people in the yahoo story. The first one has a twitter background that reads, "make liberalism ridiculous again" and a long list of very "right" leaning tweets. The second is full of the same concern trolling towards other media figures with their statements taken out of context - the exact thing you're expressing frustration with in the other thread. Also a republican. The third's twitter avatar is literally "I <3 TRUMP" The fourth, to his credit, admits in other tweets that he is a republican, wasn't actually offended, but was just making a point (you know, the thing you're doing now). The fifth has an avatar of Pepe the Frog, and a background of Trump stylized like Duke Nukem, holding a gun in front of the American Flag, and a pinned tweet about the "alt-left being pedophiles". I'll summarize the rest: I checked, and every single one of them are very outspoken republicans. I think I have you dead to rights here. If there is a non-republican somewhere in this country who was offended, you definitely didn't link to a yahoo article referencing any of them. The only thing you did was validate my point. Anyway, I know what you're doing. Your point is that the other side is constantly doing this same type of thing to Trump. I agree, and I think it's out of control. The Washington Post has become as bad as Fox News. I used to see this from the lunatic-right and wonder how certain headlines alone were not setting off their skepticism alarms. Now I'm being flooded by the same type of thing from the lunatic-left. It does not leave much room for optimism.
      - blackflame7000 10y ago
        What is wrong with you? I am Not yahoo.com. I did not write the article. I never endorsed any part of the article. Yahoo is a left leaning publication and they published that article, on their front page. Thus to claim right wing conspiracy doesnt make any sense because its not coming from breitbart. I seriously cant believe you spent your friday night writing an 8 paragraph response to nothing. I wasn't trying to argue anything other than a fact that there were articles on top media websites claiming outrage. Good grief.
        lawnchair_larry 10y ago
        > I was merely pointing out that an article citing a bunch of tweets from offended people was the cover story on yahoo yesterday, in response to a comment saying no one was offended except republicans.
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majormajor 10y ago
In other areas, people get labeled as having "internalized the patriarchy" or such if they claim to find something that could've offended them unoffensive... it's always about the messenger more than the message. The thing about this is that people aren't stupid, in the same way that a lot of people were willing to ignore Trump's misogyny. Asking "why would I care that the media is telling me it's terrible that Trump says things like this, when mainstream movies, TV, and music lyrics are full of stuff at least as bad?" is a legitimate question that nobody was even bothering to try to give them an answer to.
- blackflame7000 10y ago
  Exactly. People can be unbelievably obtuse when it comes to remarks the opposition makes while simultaneously showing remarkable skill in finding exculpatory facts for their own side. The media is especially guilty of sensationalizing what would otherwise be mundane statements into controversy. An example of this would be taking the phrase "you people" out of context and turning into a racial/etc issue when the intent was never there to begin with.
  - majormajor 10y ago
    I'd disagree and say "you people" is a pretty blatant one. It communicates pretty clearly an intent to paint with a really really wide brush.
    - blackflame7000 10y ago
      So if a manager says to the office, "Some of you people need to improve your performance" and one person takes that as meaning only people of color need improvement and reports the manager, you would side with the employee? There are many common cases where someone refers to a group of people with the intention of meaning everyone while someone in the group interprets it as referring to a subset of the group. It stems from the ambiguity of the word people and the impact of tone and body language in conveying its ultimate meaning.

The only comments from the LGBT community that I've seen are that they found it funny and not homophobic. It seems to be the Republicans who are calling it homophobic.

jmcdiesel 10y ago

The irony there...

blackflame7000 10y ago

This story was on the front page of yahoo.com, a left-centrist publication, yesterday: https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-hot-water-over-homophobic-donald-trump-201551070.html https://www.yahoo.com/tv/stephen-colbert-hot-water-over-homo... In today's age its a bad bet to assume something isn't offensive to anyone.

lawnchair_larry 10y ago
But that isn't what's happening here and you know it. You're a Trump supporter, that's cool, but please drop the concern trolling. You're not offended, you're just being opportunistic.
- blackflame7000 10y ago
  I'm not offended and never said I was. I was merely pointing out that an article citing a bunch of tweets from offended people was the cover story on yahoo yesterday, in response to a comment saying no one was offended except republicans.
  - lawnchair_larry 10y ago
    I encourage you to take a look at those "offended" people in the yahoo story. The first one has a twitter background that reads, "make liberalism ridiculous again" and a long list of very "right" leaning tweets. The second is full of the same concern trolling towards other media figures with their statements taken out of context - the exact thing you're expressing frustration with in the other thread. Also a republican. The third's twitter avatar is literally "I <3 TRUMP" The fourth, to his credit, admits in other tweets that he is a republican, wasn't actually offended, but was just making a point (you know, the thing you're doing now). The fifth has an avatar of Pepe the Frog, and a background of Trump stylized like Duke Nukem, holding a gun in front of the American Flag, and a pinned tweet about the "alt-left being pedophiles". I'll summarize the rest: I checked, and every single one of them are very outspoken republicans. I think I have you dead to rights here. If there is a non-republican somewhere in this country who was offended, you definitely didn't link to a yahoo article referencing any of them. The only thing you did was validate my point. Anyway, I know what you're doing. Your point is that the other side is constantly doing this same type of thing to Trump. I agree, and I think it's out of control. The Washington Post has become as bad as Fox News. I used to see this from the lunatic-right and wonder how certain headlines alone were not setting off their skepticism alarms. Now I'm being flooded by the same type of thing from the lunatic-left. It does not leave much room for optimism.
    - blackflame7000 10y ago
      What is wrong with you? I am Not yahoo.com. I did not write the article. I never endorsed any part of the article. Yahoo is a left leaning publication and they published that article, on their front page. Thus to claim right wing conspiracy doesnt make any sense because its not coming from breitbart. I seriously cant believe you spent your friday night writing an 8 paragraph response to nothing. I wasn't trying to argue anything other than a fact that there were articles on top media websites claiming outrage. Good grief.
      - lawnchair_larry 10y ago
        > I was merely pointing out that an article citing a bunch of tweets from offended people was the cover story on yahoo yesterday, in response to a comment saying no one was offended except republicans.
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majormajor 10y ago

In other areas, people get labeled as having "internalized the patriarchy" or such if they claim to find something that could've offended them unoffensive... it's always about the messenger more than the message. The thing about this is that people aren't stupid, in the same way that a lot of people were willing to ignore Trump's misogyny. Asking "why would I care that the media is telling me it's terrible that Trump says things like this, when mainstream movies, TV, and music lyrics are full of stuff at least as bad?" is a legitimate question that nobody was even bothering to try to give them an answer to.

blackflame7000 10y ago
Exactly. People can be unbelievably obtuse when it comes to remarks the opposition makes while simultaneously showing remarkable skill in finding exculpatory facts for their own side. The media is especially guilty of sensationalizing what would otherwise be mundane statements into controversy. An example of this would be taking the phrase "you people" out of context and turning into a racial/etc issue when the intent was never there to begin with.
- majormajor 10y ago
  I'd disagree and say "you people" is a pretty blatant one. It communicates pretty clearly an intent to paint with a really really wide brush.
  - blackflame7000 10y ago
    So if a manager says to the office, "Some of you people need to improve your performance" and one person takes that as meaning only people of color need improvement and reports the manager, you would side with the employee? There are many common cases where someone refers to a group of people with the intention of meaning everyone while someone in the group interprets it as referring to a subset of the group. It stems from the ambiguity of the word people and the impact of tone and body language in conveying its ultimate meaning.