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OK, so what's the content of the documents. Best I can tell is that he has a bank account in the Cayman's? Ummm, why is that surprising for a former investmen

OK, so what's the content of the documents. Best I can tell is that he has a bank account in the Cayman's? Ummm, why is that surprising for a former investment banker? This just seems like a desperate attempt to help Le Pen.

renaudg 9y ago
No, the bank account thing was a poorly doctored PDF posted to 4chan last night. Immediately debunked. This is different, email archives from a handful of staffers + accounting spreadsheets. Probably a few juicy things but nothing groundbreaking so far
Signez 9y ago
Even that was debunked, as a french journalist on Twitter spotted that the pdf leaked (earlier today) was poorly doctored with an vector-based image editor, and was able to move the actual text layer around. Source (in French but pictures are enough): http://www.numerama.com/politique/254983-compte-offshore-demmanuel-macron-une-intox-venue-de-4chan.html http://www.numerama.com/politique/254983-compte-offshore-dem...
- alexknvl 9y ago
  https://archive.fo/VCz3I/22b9ae6e1cfad9328490576e8ddb4549f8766b63.jpg https://archive.fo/VCz3I/22b9ae6e1cfad9328490576e8ddb4549f87... Now, I have no idea which one is the original, but AFAIU once you take a jpg and scan it into pdf, it's easy to move the text around (?). EDIT: I hope my implication is clear. I think that the jpg file is more likely to be the original photo. It was later scanned as a pdf. Then OCR'd version was edited a bit by merging parts of the text (or only parts of it were OCR'd). Then a journalist opened it up in an editor and saw those layers. Going in the opposite direction would require someone to produce an authentic looking jpg from an obviously OCR'd pdf. That seems like less likely to me.
  - jimrandomh 9y ago
    When software OCRs a PDF, it does it by adding an invisible text layer aligned with the original text, while leaving the original text visible. This makes the PDF searchable, without having to worry about changing the font, introducing OCR errors where people can see them, or disturbing the background. What we see here is very unambiguously the result of a PDF-editing program, not a scan+OCR.

renaudg 9y ago

No, the bank account thing was a poorly doctored PDF posted to 4chan last night. Immediately debunked. This is different, email archives from a handful of staffers + accounting spreadsheets. Probably a few juicy things but nothing groundbreaking so far

Signez 9y ago

Even that was debunked, as a french journalist on Twitter spotted that the pdf leaked (earlier today) was poorly doctored with an vector-based image editor, and was able to move the actual text layer around. Source (in French but pictures are enough): http://www.numerama.com/politique/254983-compte-offshore-demmanuel-macron-une-intox-venue-de-4chan.html http://www.numerama.com/politique/254983-compte-offshore-dem...

alexknvl 9y ago
https://archive.fo/VCz3I/22b9ae6e1cfad9328490576e8ddb4549f8766b63.jpg https://archive.fo/VCz3I/22b9ae6e1cfad9328490576e8ddb4549f87... Now, I have no idea which one is the original, but AFAIU once you take a jpg and scan it into pdf, it's easy to move the text around (?). EDIT: I hope my implication is clear. I think that the jpg file is more likely to be the original photo. It was later scanned as a pdf. Then OCR'd version was edited a bit by merging parts of the text (or only parts of it were OCR'd). Then a journalist opened it up in an editor and saw those layers. Going in the opposite direction would require someone to produce an authentic looking jpg from an obviously OCR'd pdf. That seems like less likely to me.
- jimrandomh 9y ago
  When software OCRs a PDF, it does it by adding an invisible text layer aligned with the original text, while leaving the original text visible. This makes the PDF searchable, without having to worry about changing the font, introducing OCR errors where people can see them, or disturbing the background. What we see here is very unambiguously the result of a PDF-editing program, not a scan+OCR.