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I don't think I'm committing that fallacy given history. Look where women went to work: office level work, or service work if you will. Look where men were tran
by virmundi 9y ago
I don't think I'm committing that fallacy given history. Look where women went to work: office level work, or service work if you will. Look where men were transitioning during the late 60s: office level work, or service work if you will. Now you've got 2 groups of people competing for the same work. Historically with a constrained pool of labour, you'd expect wages to rise to get the few available candidates to work for you. Since the 1970's, that pool is essentially 33-60% great than what it could have been. Also during the 1970's you saw an increased rate of women attending university. Again, gaining skills and accreditations required by the general employers at the time.
As to mansplanning, I didn't do that. I never said the individual was a woman. In fact it was a portly, hairy MALE friend of mine. I also didn't say women in the workplace was bad. Just there are consequences of expanding the labour pool with more intelligent hard working people.
- cbhl 9y agoI want you to consider the way you phrased your statement, and compare it to the way I phrased my question. You: "[The] reason for wage stagnation is that women hit the workforce" Me: "because women weren't expected to have jobs" The way you phrased your statement can be interpreted as saying that women are the cause of wage stagnation. Surely, that's not what you meant at all. The way I phrased my statement implies that society, and the change in society's expectations of women, are the trigger. This shifts the "blame", if you will, from women, to everyone. I realize I'm being nit-picky about words, but in my experience, women and minorities care about words a lot, and so taking care in the way you use words can help them be more receptive to your facts and ideas.
- rhapsodic 9y ago*>I realize I'm being nit-picky about words,..." If you were nit-picky about words, you would realize that the entire post you quoted from was utterly inoffensive to anyone not trying to find offense. FFS, he (excuse me for assuming that) even said "I made no judgement on women working."
- weberc2 9y agoI really perceive no difference between those phrasings. I also don't have a strong desire to pander to those who go so far out of their way to avoid charitable interpretations. Fortunately, I know very few such people (male or female, majority or minority).