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> It historically enabled features (sealed batteries) that Windows didn't, that provided better performance. You are saying this as it was an undisputed fact.

by bobsam 9y ago

> It historically enabled features (sealed batteries) that Windows didn't, that provided better performance. You are saying this as it was an undisputed fact. Which is the exact issue OP pointed at.

valuearb 9y ago
Sealed batteries are the reason I switched to Mac laptops. I used to carry an extra battery with my top of line dell laptop to make it through a flight. Then i read about the amazing battery life MacBooks were offering and switched and was able to make it through a single flight without every charging a backup battery again. It wasn't just sealed batteries, but they offer better performance because they can better customized to fit available space in the laptop. To do that the OS has to have special drivers that condition the battery, or your battery will age rapidly and need replacement in a year or so. Apple put that into MacOS, which was a huge benefit in itself. Sealed batteries also make devices lighter and sturdier. Fewer openings, more rigid enclosures. These all seem like minor advantages, but they specifically led to me and others to became a Mac user.
- bobsam 9y ago
  I am sorry, you are missing the point. Your anecdata doesn't make a fact, neither does your perception. This is what OP was trying to get across. I switched from a white MacBook to black Asus many years ago. The former lasted 6 hours while the replacable battery of the Asus lasted 9-11 hours. Now I don't go around claiming Asus is better than apple, replacable is better than sealed or that black is better than white as it was a universal fact.
  - valuearb 9y ago
    They haven't made a white MacBook in a very long time. At the time I made my switch, a MacBook Pro lasted 7 hours, my Dell with very similar configuration lasted 4.5 hours. There were numerous technical discussions about how custom sealed batteries could provide more density in the same or smaller space. But their problem was they weren't usable because they typically lost capacity after a years worth of charge cycles, so no one could figure out why Apples didn't. Until they realized MacOS had special conditioning software in it. And while today's laptops have roughly reached battery life parity, for years MacBooks were indisputably the best at it. Look it up, the facts are out there.

by bobsam 9y ago

> It historically enabled features (sealed batteries) that Windows didn't, that provided better performance. You are saying this as it was an undisputed fact. Which is the exact issue OP pointed at.

valuearb 9y ago

Sealed batteries are the reason I switched to Mac laptops. I used to carry an extra battery with my top of line dell laptop to make it through a flight. Then i read about the amazing battery life MacBooks were offering and switched and was able to make it through a single flight without every charging a backup battery again. It wasn't just sealed batteries, but they offer better performance because they can better customized to fit available space in the laptop. To do that the OS has to have special drivers that condition the battery, or your battery will age rapidly and need replacement in a year or so. Apple put that into MacOS, which was a huge benefit in itself. Sealed batteries also make devices lighter and sturdier. Fewer openings, more rigid enclosures. These all seem like minor advantages, but they specifically led to me and others to became a Mac user.

bobsam 9y ago
I am sorry, you are missing the point. Your anecdata doesn't make a fact, neither does your perception. This is what OP was trying to get across. I switched from a white MacBook to black Asus many years ago. The former lasted 6 hours while the replacable battery of the Asus lasted 9-11 hours. Now I don't go around claiming Asus is better than apple, replacable is better than sealed or that black is better than white as it was a universal fact.
- valuearb 9y ago
  They haven't made a white MacBook in a very long time. At the time I made my switch, a MacBook Pro lasted 7 hours, my Dell with very similar configuration lasted 4.5 hours. There were numerous technical discussions about how custom sealed batteries could provide more density in the same or smaller space. But their problem was they weren't usable because they typically lost capacity after a years worth of charge cycles, so no one could figure out why Apples didn't. Until they realized MacOS had special conditioning software in it. And while today's laptops have roughly reached battery life parity, for years MacBooks were indisputably the best at it. Look it up, the facts are out there.