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Surely this would have been discovered by patients by accident, if it was true?

by swah 10y ago

ng12 10y ago
How? Maybe you went into remission because you took an aspirin every morning. Or maybe it's because drank a cup of coffee every day, or ate lots of greens, or spent 10 minutes in the sun every day, etc. Your body is complicated and more than likely lots of factors helped.
- sp332 10y ago
  The effect in the article is just preventing metastasis, not going into remission. There's basically no way a single patient would have noticed that aspirin prevented that.
creaghpatr 10y ago
I doubt patients would consider the correlation since in their mind the effectiveness measure of aspirin specifically is pain relief rather than remission. Plus lots of 'noise' from other treatments.
- digikata 10y ago
  I think it would be hard to see too, but I know my grandfather for example had a long-term, small dose of asprin prescribed to him as a minor 'blood thinner'. So there perhaps exists groups of patients who could form a sample to compare against a more general population.
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swsieber 10y ago
I don't think so - a cancer patient is probably taking/doing so many things for treatment that they wouldn't think to attribute it to cancer. It could explain people eating healthy to get rid of cancer instead of chemo or traditional treatments - maybe they take aspirin too. I know I wouldn't give aspirin a second thought if I had cancer.
- douche 10y ago
  They really do put you on some massive cocktails - notably large doses of prednisone, which is also a massively effective anti-inflammatory - so I can imagine it would be hard to pick out the causes precisely.
carbocation 10y ago
Aspirin (previously erroneously typed cancer, hat tip to 'tossaway1 for the correction!) has previously been associated with reduced colorectal cancer death[1]. The cancer/aspirin link has come up a fair amount over the past few decades. 1 = https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354696/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354696/
- tossaway1 10y ago
  Cancer has been associated with colorectal cancer death??
  - NotHereNotThere 10y ago
    He obviously meant to type "aspirin" as the first word, but that was hilarious nonetheless.
    - carbocation 10y ago
      Ha! :-) Thanks to both of you for noticing this. Updated.

Surely this would have been discovered by patients by accident, if it was true?

by swah 10y ago

Surely this would have been discovered by patients by accident, if it was true?

ng12 10y ago

How? Maybe you went into remission because you took an aspirin every morning. Or maybe it's because drank a cup of coffee every day, or ate lots of greens, or spent 10 minutes in the sun every day, etc. Your body is complicated and more than likely lots of factors helped.

sp332 10y ago
The effect in the article is just preventing metastasis, not going into remission. There's basically no way a single patient would have noticed that aspirin prevented that.

creaghpatr 10y ago

I doubt patients would consider the correlation since in their mind the effectiveness measure of aspirin specifically is pain relief rather than remission. Plus lots of 'noise' from other treatments.

digikata 10y ago
I think it would be hard to see too, but I know my grandfather for example had a long-term, small dose of asprin prescribed to him as a minor 'blood thinner'. So there perhaps exists groups of patients who could form a sample to compare against a more general population.

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swsieber 10y ago

I don't think so - a cancer patient is probably taking/doing so many things for treatment that they wouldn't think to attribute it to cancer. It could explain people eating healthy to get rid of cancer instead of chemo or traditional treatments - maybe they take aspirin too. I know I wouldn't give aspirin a second thought if I had cancer.

douche 10y ago
They really do put you on some massive cocktails - notably large doses of prednisone, which is also a massively effective anti-inflammatory - so I can imagine it would be hard to pick out the causes precisely.

carbocation 10y ago

Aspirin (previously erroneously typed cancer, hat tip to 'tossaway1 for the correction!) has previously been associated with reduced colorectal cancer death[1]. The cancer/aspirin link has come up a fair amount over the past few decades. 1 = https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354696/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354696/

tossaway1 10y ago
Cancer has been associated with colorectal cancer death??
- NotHereNotThere 10y ago
  He obviously meant to type "aspirin" as the first word, but that was hilarious nonetheless.
  - carbocation 10y ago
    Ha! :-) Thanks to both of you for noticing this. Updated.