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This is a great article! As I commented on the post itself when it was published, I keep a big list of links to high-quality tutorials and articles on React,

This is a great article! As I commented on the post itself when it was published, I keep a big list of links to high-quality tutorials and articles on React, Redux, and related topics, at [0]. That includes a section of "Redux implementation walkthroughs" at [1]. This is probably the best article of that type that I've seen. It not only covers the core of Redux, but also builds miniature versions of Redux middleware and the React-Redux `connect` function. I already added it to my list, and definitely recommend it. Readers may also be interested in my Redux addons catalog at [2], which includes links to hundreds of Redux middleware, utilities, and other useful libraries. That includes multiple ways to batch dispatching of actions. [0] https://github.com/markerikson/react-redux-links/blob/master/redux-tutorials.md#redux-implementation-walkthroughs https://github.com/markerikson/react-redux-links/blob/master... [1] https://github.com/markerikson/react-redux-links https://github.com/markerikson/react-redux-links [2] https://github.com/markerikson/redux-ecosystem-links https://github.com/markerikson/redux-ecosystem-links

jdeal 10y ago
Thanks again, Mark!
lalwanivikas 10y ago
I am probably going to get downvoted to hell for this negative comment, but please stop doing this. I am really tired of seeing your "big list of links" everywhere I go[0][1]. If I click on anything even mildly related to React, Redux etc., on Reddit, HN etc. I always find the same thing. https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"+site:news.ycombinator.com https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"... https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"+site:reddit.com https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"...
- acemarke 10y ago
  Yeah, I paste the link in a lot of places, because people keep asking the same questions, and the vast majority of people who see my list find it helpful :) It's really a case of XKCD's "Today's 10,000" ( https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/ ). There's always some people who find out about something for the first time, and I'm trying to help those people. FWIW, I do try to include those links as part of a larger comment relevant to the article or discussion at hand.
  - lioeters 10y ago
    That was a wonderful XKCD reference, and an enlightened response. I had seen your Redux list before too, but I appreciated seeing it again as a reminder, it's relevant to the discussion and a great resource, especially for those starting to learn about the topic.
- Bjartr 10y ago
  Personally, I don't mind it. The resource seems genuinely relevant and useful, and the few lines it takes up as an HN comment don't significantly distract. While you may have seen it over and over again, that doesn't mean everyone in the community (and anyone new the community) has seen it. I'd rather have to skip over info I've seen before than make it less accessible. If the content is not appropriate to make it a relevant addition to the discussion, then that should be the point of contention, not merely that you've seen it before.
- djtriptych 10y ago
  I upvoted you. This feels a lot like marketing spam. I think we instinctively upvote comments like this, but we really don't need it on every react/redux post here. Is the list popular because it's useful or because the author tirelessly promotes it? No way to tell. Besides the above, both react and redux have excellent official documentation, and tutorials get stale.
  - acemarke 10y ago
    I agree that both the React and Redux docs are good, although I'm biased - I wrote the Redux FAQ and "Structuring Reducers" sections for the Redux docs. That said, the official tutorials and reference sections can only cover so much info, and other articles often go into more detail. For example, the React docs discuss the idea of "controlled inputs", but Gosha Arinich's series of articles on React and forms [0] go into much more detail on the concept and how to apply it. The React docs mention immutability somewhat in the "Optimizing Performance" section, but there's other articles that discuss the why and how in greater detail [1]. Similarly, the Redux docs try to teach the basic concepts and important principles, but articles like "Redux Step by Step: A Simple and Robust Workflow for Real Life Apps" [3] and "Advanced Redux Entity Normalization" [4] go into a lot more detail on some useful real-world concerns. In the last couple big React-related threads on HN, some people complained that there were no all-encompassing guides for React, the way there are for things like Django or Rails. A lot of that is because Django/Rails are much more convention-driven, so there really is more of an "official" way to do things. With React, people are free to pick and choose the pieces they want, and that means that a single guide is somewhat impractical. (The React team also does not want to try to push or enforce specific tools as "blessed", partly because Facebook has its own ways of using React that are different than the community, and also because they believe in letting the community build things that solve their own use cases.) As a result, in a lot of ways my list is about as close to a "guide" as you're probably going to find for React best practices and resources. [0] https://goshakkk.name/on-forms-react/ https://goshakkk.name/on-forms-react/ [1] http://reactkungfu.com/2015/08/pros-and-cons-of-using-immutability-with-react-js/ http://reactkungfu.com/2015/08/pros-and-cons-of-using-immuta... [2] https://hackernoon.com/redux-step-by-step-a-simple-and-robust-workflow-for-real-life-apps-1fdf7df46092 https://hackernoon.com/redux-step-by-step-a-simple-and-robus... [3] https://medium.com/@dcousineau/advanced-redux-entity-normalization-f5f1fe2aefc5 https://medium.com/@dcousineau/advanced-redux-entity-normali...
maaaats 10y ago
A big list is a negative thing, not a feature. When you have twenty links to introductions to React, they all seem equal and thus the list is no more useful than a google search. A small, curated list, that would be useful.
- acemarke 10y ago
  I do have a shortened, "best-of / getting started" subset on the front page. As for the similarity between links... yeah, there is some duplication, but different articles take different approaches to describing things, and might help different people. Also, having them all in one place makes it easier for people to browse through them, rather than having to fully sort through Google results themselves. I'd also welcome any help maintaining the list (organizing, updating, pruning, etc), because thus far it's been only me :)
- mp01 10y ago
  I like this resource specifically because it's such a large list. If I'm exploring a new topic (e.g. styling react components), I want to have a lot of articles to look through. Google doesn't cut it at all for me in situations like that.

jdeal 10y ago

Thanks again, Mark!

lalwanivikas 10y ago

I am probably going to get downvoted to hell for this negative comment, but please stop doing this. I am really tired of seeing your "big list of links" everywhere I go[0][1]. If I click on anything even mildly related to React, Redux etc., on Reddit, HN etc. I always find the same thing. https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"+site:news.ycombinator.com https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"... https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"+site:reddit.com https://www.google.com/search?q="I+keep+a+big+list+of+links"...

acemarke 10y ago
Yeah, I paste the link in a lot of places, because people keep asking the same questions, and the vast majority of people who see my list find it helpful :) It's really a case of XKCD's "Today's 10,000" ( https://xkcd.com/1053/ https://xkcd.com/1053/ ). There's always some people who find out about something for the first time, and I'm trying to help those people. FWIW, I do try to include those links as part of a larger comment relevant to the article or discussion at hand.
- lioeters 10y ago
  That was a wonderful XKCD reference, and an enlightened response. I had seen your Redux list before too, but I appreciated seeing it again as a reminder, it's relevant to the discussion and a great resource, especially for those starting to learn about the topic.
Bjartr 10y ago
Personally, I don't mind it. The resource seems genuinely relevant and useful, and the few lines it takes up as an HN comment don't significantly distract. While you may have seen it over and over again, that doesn't mean everyone in the community (and anyone new the community) has seen it. I'd rather have to skip over info I've seen before than make it less accessible. If the content is not appropriate to make it a relevant addition to the discussion, then that should be the point of contention, not merely that you've seen it before.
djtriptych 10y ago
I upvoted you. This feels a lot like marketing spam. I think we instinctively upvote comments like this, but we really don't need it on every react/redux post here. Is the list popular because it's useful or because the author tirelessly promotes it? No way to tell. Besides the above, both react and redux have excellent official documentation, and tutorials get stale.
- acemarke 10y ago
  I agree that both the React and Redux docs are good, although I'm biased - I wrote the Redux FAQ and "Structuring Reducers" sections for the Redux docs. That said, the official tutorials and reference sections can only cover so much info, and other articles often go into more detail. For example, the React docs discuss the idea of "controlled inputs", but Gosha Arinich's series of articles on React and forms [0] go into much more detail on the concept and how to apply it. The React docs mention immutability somewhat in the "Optimizing Performance" section, but there's other articles that discuss the why and how in greater detail [1]. Similarly, the Redux docs try to teach the basic concepts and important principles, but articles like "Redux Step by Step: A Simple and Robust Workflow for Real Life Apps" [3] and "Advanced Redux Entity Normalization" [4] go into a lot more detail on some useful real-world concerns. In the last couple big React-related threads on HN, some people complained that there were no all-encompassing guides for React, the way there are for things like Django or Rails. A lot of that is because Django/Rails are much more convention-driven, so there really is more of an "official" way to do things. With React, people are free to pick and choose the pieces they want, and that means that a single guide is somewhat impractical. (The React team also does not want to try to push or enforce specific tools as "blessed", partly because Facebook has its own ways of using React that are different than the community, and also because they believe in letting the community build things that solve their own use cases.) As a result, in a lot of ways my list is about as close to a "guide" as you're probably going to find for React best practices and resources. [0] https://goshakkk.name/on-forms-react/ https://goshakkk.name/on-forms-react/ [1] http://reactkungfu.com/2015/08/pros-and-cons-of-using-immutability-with-react-js/ http://reactkungfu.com/2015/08/pros-and-cons-of-using-immuta... [2] https://hackernoon.com/redux-step-by-step-a-simple-and-robust-workflow-for-real-life-apps-1fdf7df46092 https://hackernoon.com/redux-step-by-step-a-simple-and-robus... [3] https://medium.com/@dcousineau/advanced-redux-entity-normalization-f5f1fe2aefc5 https://medium.com/@dcousineau/advanced-redux-entity-normali...

maaaats 10y ago

A big list is a negative thing, not a feature. When you have twenty links to introductions to React, they all seem equal and thus the list is no more useful than a google search. A small, curated list, that would be useful.

acemarke 10y ago
I do have a shortened, "best-of / getting started" subset on the front page. As for the similarity between links... yeah, there is some duplication, but different articles take different approaches to describing things, and might help different people. Also, having them all in one place makes it easier for people to browse through them, rather than having to fully sort through Google results themselves. I'd also welcome any help maintaining the list (organizing, updating, pruning, etc), because thus far it's been only me :)
mp01 10y ago
I like this resource specifically because it's such a large list. If I'm exploring a new topic (e.g. styling react components), I want to have a lot of articles to look through. Google doesn't cut it at all for me in situations like that.