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> Haskell is an example of academic carefully crafted language, while C++ is rather a practically driven continuous patchwork (and they are extremities to both

> Haskell is an example of academic carefully crafted language, while C++ is rather a practically driven continuous patchwork (and they are extremities to both ends). Haskell is also a continuous patchwork, just look at the number of deprecated GHC extensions.

hzhou321 9y ago
... which is the opposite of its pure vision, which is why I can't help think it is a negative.
- jamescostian 9y ago
  >>> Haskell is an example of academic carefully crafted language >> Haskell is also a continuous patchwork > which is the opposite of its pure vision, which is why I can't help think it is a negative I'm very confused. One second, you're literally saying Haskell was "carefully crafted", and the next, you're saying it's "the opposite of its pure vision" It's almost as if you're just trying as hard as you can to argue, not caring what stance you're arguing, just so long as you can act like the author is wrong
  - hzhou321 9y ago
    > I'm very confused. One second, you're literally saying Haskell was "carefully crafted", and the next, you're saying it's "the opposite of its pure vision" > It's almost as if you're just trying as hard as you can to argue, not caring what stance you're arguing, just so long as you can act like the author is wrong Let me write the complete sentence: ([luispedrocoelho commented that] Haskell is also a continuous patchwork ) (which I simply accepted and followed -- even though I am doubtful) which is the opposite of its pure vision, which is why I can't help think it is a negative (regarding OP's point). I commented originally that OP's this C++ comparison is also negative, right? So it is consistent. When I say something is carefully crafted, I am refering to its intention. When I accept that someone find it like C++ or is also a patchwork, I accept that as a reality. When the reality runs against its design goal/vision/purpose, it is a negative, IMHO. -- Hope this clarifies. EDIT: to make it even clearer, I didn't comment that whether a pure design goal or a continuous patchwork reality on its own is positive or negative. That is subjective. However, having a design goal and reality conflict, that can't be positive.
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hzhou321 9y ago

... which is the opposite of its pure vision, which is why I can't help think it is a negative.

jamescostian 9y ago
>>> Haskell is an example of academic carefully crafted language >> Haskell is also a continuous patchwork > which is the opposite of its pure vision, which is why I can't help think it is a negative I'm very confused. One second, you're literally saying Haskell was "carefully crafted", and the next, you're saying it's "the opposite of its pure vision" It's almost as if you're just trying as hard as you can to argue, not caring what stance you're arguing, just so long as you can act like the author is wrong
- hzhou321 9y ago
  > I'm very confused. One second, you're literally saying Haskell was "carefully crafted", and the next, you're saying it's "the opposite of its pure vision" > It's almost as if you're just trying as hard as you can to argue, not caring what stance you're arguing, just so long as you can act like the author is wrong Let me write the complete sentence: ([luispedrocoelho commented that] Haskell is also a continuous patchwork ) (which I simply accepted and followed -- even though I am doubtful) which is the opposite of its pure vision, which is why I can't help think it is a negative (regarding OP's point). I commented originally that OP's this C++ comparison is also negative, right? So it is consistent. When I say something is carefully crafted, I am refering to its intention. When I accept that someone find it like C++ or is also a patchwork, I accept that as a reality. When the reality runs against its design goal/vision/purpose, it is a negative, IMHO. -- Hope this clarifies. EDIT: to make it even clearer, I didn't comment that whether a pure design goal or a continuous patchwork reality on its own is positive or negative. That is subjective. However, having a design goal and reality conflict, that can't be positive.
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