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I never understood Soylent. Why not simple, convenient, repetitive meals instead? Why not a protein shake and a banana if occasional liquid meal replacements ar

I never understood Soylent. Why not simple, convenient, repetitive meals instead? Why not a protein shake and a banana if occasional liquid meal replacements are needed?

strictnein 9y ago
Soylent is a simple, convenient, repetitive meal.
TeMPOraL 9y ago
> Why not simple, convenient, repetitive meals instead? Name one that a) provides a proper amount of needed nutrients and b) is as simple and convenient as Soylent (or equivalents).
- goldenkey 9y ago
  A multivitamin. Organic valley protein shakes (already liquid): https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/protein-shakes/ https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/protein-shakes/ And purple corn meal for carbs: https://www.amazon.com/Z%C3%B3calo-Peru-Organic-Purple-Flour/dp/B003D0OJ8I https://www.amazon.com/Z%C3%B3calo-Peru-Organic-Purple-Flour... Organic virgin coconut oil (in glass jar) for fats: https://www.pureformulas.com/nutiva-organic-extravirgin-coconut-oil-glass-jar-23-oz-by-nutiva.html https://www.pureformulas.com/nutiva-organic-extravirgin-coco...
  - greenshackle2 9y ago
    OK I'll bite. Soylent is $2.69 / 400 cal and vegan. To get the same macro ratios you don't need the corn meal, the shakes have plenty of carbs, you can do 1 shake @ $3.33 + 15g coconut oil @ $0.55 + a few cents for the multivitamin = ~$4.00 / 400 cal. (You may still want the cornmeal for fibers and slower carbs, since the carbs in the shake are all from milk and cane sugar.) So it's more expensive, requires preparation, is not vegan, and the glycemic load is probably worse. Beautiful.
    - goldenkey 9y ago
      Soy protein has phytoestrogens and lead and whatnot. Proteins from plants grown in metal heavy soil are not a good source for majority of protein supply for a human being.
      - greenshackle2 9y ago
        Ok. Soy has isoflavones, which are kinda shaped like estrogens, and bind to estrogen receptors by chance cause they have similar structures, but not as strongly as real estrogen, because they're not sex hormones to begin with. Cow milk has actual estrogen. Because cows are mammals. With actual sex hormones. Which binds strongly to estrogen receptors, because that's what they're for. I know which one I'm going with.
        goldenkey 9y ago
        Are you sure about this issue with normal milk? I cannot find much about it although the soy estrogen research is all out there.
        greenshackle2 9y ago
        I found a few studies by googling 'dairy estrogen'. To be honest I don't think it's that big of a deal in either case (soy or dairy), for occasional consumption, I eat both on occasion. But if we are talking about replacing meals with a dairy shake, or GOMAD (gallon of milk per day, a 'traditional' recipe for fast weight gain), I might be a little bit concerned.
- INCOG_THE_TROLL 9y ago
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I never understood Soylent. Why not simple, convenient, repetitive meals instead? Why not a protein shake and a banana if occasional liquid meal replacements are needed?

strictnein 9y ago

Soylent is a simple, convenient, repetitive meal.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

> Why not simple, convenient, repetitive meals instead? Name one that a) provides a proper amount of needed nutrients and b) is as simple and convenient as Soylent (or equivalents).

goldenkey 9y ago
A multivitamin. Organic valley protein shakes (already liquid): https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/protein-shakes/ https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/protein-shakes/ And purple corn meal for carbs: https://www.amazon.com/Z%C3%B3calo-Peru-Organic-Purple-Flour/dp/B003D0OJ8I https://www.amazon.com/Z%C3%B3calo-Peru-Organic-Purple-Flour... Organic virgin coconut oil (in glass jar) for fats: https://www.pureformulas.com/nutiva-organic-extravirgin-coconut-oil-glass-jar-23-oz-by-nutiva.html https://www.pureformulas.com/nutiva-organic-extravirgin-coco...
- greenshackle2 9y ago
  OK I'll bite. Soylent is $2.69 / 400 cal and vegan. To get the same macro ratios you don't need the corn meal, the shakes have plenty of carbs, you can do 1 shake @ $3.33 + 15g coconut oil @ $0.55 + a few cents for the multivitamin = ~$4.00 / 400 cal. (You may still want the cornmeal for fibers and slower carbs, since the carbs in the shake are all from milk and cane sugar.) So it's more expensive, requires preparation, is not vegan, and the glycemic load is probably worse. Beautiful.
  - goldenkey 9y ago
    Soy protein has phytoestrogens and lead and whatnot. Proteins from plants grown in metal heavy soil are not a good source for majority of protein supply for a human being.
    - greenshackle2 9y ago
      Ok. Soy has isoflavones, which are kinda shaped like estrogens, and bind to estrogen receptors by chance cause they have similar structures, but not as strongly as real estrogen, because they're not sex hormones to begin with. Cow milk has actual estrogen. Because cows are mammals. With actual sex hormones. Which binds strongly to estrogen receptors, because that's what they're for. I know which one I'm going with.
      - goldenkey 9y ago
        Are you sure about this issue with normal milk? I cannot find much about it although the soy estrogen research is all out there.
        greenshackle2 9y ago
        I found a few studies by googling 'dairy estrogen'. To be honest I don't think it's that big of a deal in either case (soy or dairy), for occasional consumption, I eat both on occasion. But if we are talking about replacing meals with a dairy shake, or GOMAD (gallon of milk per day, a 'traditional' recipe for fast weight gain), I might be a little bit concerned.
INCOG_THE_TROLL 9y ago
MetRX

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