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You could at least try to be aware of the fact that Keynes' theory is not fact - and should not be presented as such. Forcing someone to pay for someone elses
by wayn3 9y ago
You could at least try to be aware of the fact that Keynes' theory is not fact - and should not be presented as such.
Forcing someone to pay for someone elses expenses is application of force. "For the greater good" is immoral. Read Harry Potter :D
The full, maxed-out tax burden of living in germany approaches 70%. Thats too much. It is immoral, and applies to people who make more than roughly 65k a year. Not a lot of money. And they get to keep 1/3rd of it.
People really really don't want to hear that, but the remote freelance economy is coming. Its just software engineers now. Maybe itll be mechanical engineers next. Finance people, really have no reason to be in offices either. Countries will lose the ability to trap us in their tax exploitation schemes and we will leave. I already do. Renegotiate or lose your productive work force.
People think germany cant fail. Germany is oh so great with its amazing education system. Volkswagen can't shit out more than 20 electric cars by 2020. It takes approximately one Elon to shit all over everything the German tech sector has achieved in 20 years.
Starting a company here? Absolutely not going to happen. Germany is a great place when you're poor.
I got approached by a recruiter the other week. I have 11 years of experience across a whole bunch of stuff. I make 200k+ a year contracting, for american companies who value their engineers. This recruiting lady calls me up, wants to recruit me. I play along just for fun. Tell her roughly what I'd consider. Goes back and forth. 3 calls. Comes back with a "salary matrix". Salary matrix says 11 years of experience gets lumped together with 6 years of experience and pays out 46k a year. Please.
Germany has a better standard of living? Completely agree. 100%. If you take a look at the entire population, I agree. But to me, personally, there are a lot of places that would love to have me, and shower me in tax rebates and decades of tax free living. They compete for me. And they are winning this fucking war. And I dont know what Germanyi s going to become once its alienated all its engineers.
What do all the blue collar folks do when the engineers are gone? I'm not sure. I'm not into politics. I really can't tell you. Only thing I can tell you is that they've lost me. And I really liked it here. But fucking me out of 70% of my money and then being told that I should be grateful for it has lost me. At least show some respect. Even if its for the greater good. You can still appreciate the people who make the greater good possible.
And yes, it is 70%. I have done the math. Income tax, social security that I will never benefit from, VAT on top of that and a myriad of smallish taxes and fees and shit amount to roughly that.
I understand that theres free education. And I benefitted from that. Sure. But if you assume that I'm going to pay ridiculous amounts of money for 50 years, by choice, just because I was born into a system that is the way it is, sorry, thats not going to happen. If you want to hold that I against me, I'm going to hold against the system that I was forced into military service, which is essentially slavery, and if anyone ever decides to drop a bomb onto germany, I'm expected to act as cannon fodder for the "military".
- ddingus 9y agoTax rates do not need to be that high for investment to work. In fact, if we simply didn't change them and reprioritized our existing budget, it would begin to work nicely in the US. As for fact, economics is not a hard science. Agreed. Our own history is all we need to know here. Regular and consistent investment spending has a solid basis in history. It's as solid as many other ideas are. We are left with value judgements. Frankly, I value a bit more basic security and stability more than I do a greater share of dollars earned. I am joined by a growing majority of Americans in these things too. I don't care what you do. Seriously. Here, cost and risk exposure is very high. While you may not like the amount your society costs, I can say the lack of sane health care policy, for one, here is something I dislike just as much. I have just as much and just as valid cause for my advocacy as you do. Did it all right, but someone got sick. I had two choices: Let them die, or experience financial ruin. That is no fucking joke. A state of affairs faced by millions all the time here. And I got forced there too. Let's just say others, who felt they needed more threw me under the bus. Other details do not need to be here. Perspective, huh? :D Cheers! May we both somehow arrive at a more equitable place.
- wayn3 9y agoI don't disagree with social security. Just the amount of it is unbearable. What I meant to say is that Keynesian economics is not the only form of economics out there. Even lots of economics folks blatantly deny that fact.
- nikdaheratik 9y ago>Forcing someone to pay for someone elses expenses is application of force. "For the greater good" is immoral. What a load of self-serving, B.S. Public tax-payer funded health care is not some form of slavery for everyone who pays their taxes and doesn't get sick. And considering the author of Harry Potter benefited greatly from both health care services and other public benefits while writing her books, I think you don't have a leg to stand on there. More to the point, you don't like the system, you're free to leave Germany, or whatever other country. But if you want to stay, you gotta pay your taxes. It's not "immoral" it's just your decision. The big difference between Germany now, and East Germany of 40 years ago, is you actually can leave anytime you want.