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Meal replacement shakes have been around for, what, 2+ decades now? Saying that Soylent has come along and now somehow enables depressed people strikes me as in

Meal replacement shakes have been around for, what, 2+ decades now? Saying that Soylent has come along and now somehow enables depressed people strikes me as insanity. Depressed people misuse all kinds of perfectly valid products and services. Being mad at Soylent, or pizza delivery, or the internet, or beds, or any other thing that depressed people might end up leaning on in an unhealthy way seems pretty silly to me.

brilliantcode 9y ago
Except Soylent marketed itself as a replacement. All those shakes you talk about are aimed at supplementing. They weren't stupid enough to tell people to live on it because of the legal liability.
- DanBC 9y ago
  I agree Soylent used irresponsible marketing. But many of those other products can be used as sole source of nutrition. EG fortisip: http://www.nutricia.ie/products/view/fortisip http://www.nutricia.ie/products/view/fortisip > Fortisip is a Food for Special Medical Purposes for use under medical supervision. Fortisip is a nutritionally complete, 1.5kcal/ml, ready to drink, milk shake style nutritional supplement, for the management of disease related malnutrition. Fortisip can be used to supplement the diet of patients unable to meet their nutritional requirements from other foods, or used as a sole source of nutrition. Fortisip is available in 200ml bottles, with a flexible straw attached, in 8 flavours: Neutral, Vanilla, Chocolate, Toffee, Banana, Orange, Strawberry and Tropical Fruits. Ensure original: https://abbottnutrition.com/ensure-original https://abbottnutrition.com/ensure-original > For interim sole-source nutrition.
  - ambrice 9y ago
    How is it irresponsible marketing?
    - ambrice 9y ago
      Oh right, we already had this discussion. At least they got upgraded from "unethical marketing" to "irresponsible marketing". But how long can you continue to claim that the company engages in irresponsible marketing based on (allegedly) exaggerated claims during a Kickstarter?
      - DanBC 9y ago
        Hence my use of the past tense "used", not present tense "uses".
mbesto 9y ago
From the parent's comment: > I think many people approach Soylent as a way to solve some of their problems, but people should realize it won't be and can't be. I'm not sure the parent's tone indicated that they were "mad" at Soylent and honestly your response to it is fairly insensitive. > Meal replacement shakes have been around for, what, 2+ decades now? Reading the copy on the Soylent website suggests that it saves you time. If meal replacement shakes have been around, then what is Soylent's value proposition and what makes it different?
- vidarh 9y ago
  > If meal replacement shakes have been around, then what is Soylent's value proposition and what makes it different? Marketing. Initially based around the idea of replacing all food with it (which even the founder stopped doing during his initial trial). It's tapping into a lot of sentiments around food as a "problem" or "nuisance", where a lot of the other shakes on the market have gone for the health and fitness angle, or the "I'm too important and busy to sit down and have breakfeast so I'll down a shake on the go" angle. But it's not bringing much more than marketing.
  - Questron 9y ago
    It's: "Look! I'm busy! I'm important! I eat special food!"
    - nf05papsjfVbc 9y ago
      Are you unwilling to consider that there are people for whom food is not a priority and is actually a nuisance? Like say cleaning one's home - which some enjoy and some find a chore.
JohnJamesRambo 9y ago
Meal replacement shakes like Ensure are meant to be supplemental to food. Soylent markets their product as ALL you have to eat, if you so desire. That could have a very different outcome on someone's health. The OP was giving his experiences with it.
- DanBC 9y ago
  > Meal replacement shakes like Ensure are meant to be supplemental to food. I wish people would stop saying this. There are many products, some are Ensure brands, that can be used as sole source nutrition products. They don't market themselves like that to the general public because they're big companies with lots of lawyers who are cautious about that kind of claim.
  - JohnJamesRambo 9y ago
    What Ensure products are meant to be all you ever eat?

brilliantcode 9y ago

Except Soylent marketed itself as a replacement. All those shakes you talk about are aimed at supplementing. They weren't stupid enough to tell people to live on it because of the legal liability.

DanBC 9y ago
I agree Soylent used irresponsible marketing. But many of those other products can be used as sole source of nutrition. EG fortisip: http://www.nutricia.ie/products/view/fortisip http://www.nutricia.ie/products/view/fortisip > Fortisip is a Food for Special Medical Purposes for use under medical supervision. Fortisip is a nutritionally complete, 1.5kcal/ml, ready to drink, milk shake style nutritional supplement, for the management of disease related malnutrition. Fortisip can be used to supplement the diet of patients unable to meet their nutritional requirements from other foods, or used as a sole source of nutrition. Fortisip is available in 200ml bottles, with a flexible straw attached, in 8 flavours: Neutral, Vanilla, Chocolate, Toffee, Banana, Orange, Strawberry and Tropical Fruits. Ensure original: https://abbottnutrition.com/ensure-original https://abbottnutrition.com/ensure-original > For interim sole-source nutrition.
- ambrice 9y ago
  How is it irresponsible marketing?
  - ambrice 9y ago
    Oh right, we already had this discussion. At least they got upgraded from "unethical marketing" to "irresponsible marketing". But how long can you continue to claim that the company engages in irresponsible marketing based on (allegedly) exaggerated claims during a Kickstarter?
    - DanBC 9y ago
      Hence my use of the past tense "used", not present tense "uses".

mbesto 9y ago

From the parent's comment: > I think many people approach Soylent as a way to solve some of their problems, but people should realize it won't be and can't be. I'm not sure the parent's tone indicated that they were "mad" at Soylent and honestly your response to it is fairly insensitive. > Meal replacement shakes have been around for, what, 2+ decades now? Reading the copy on the Soylent website suggests that it saves you time. If meal replacement shakes have been around, then what is Soylent's value proposition and what makes it different?

vidarh 9y ago
> If meal replacement shakes have been around, then what is Soylent's value proposition and what makes it different? Marketing. Initially based around the idea of replacing all food with it (which even the founder stopped doing during his initial trial). It's tapping into a lot of sentiments around food as a "problem" or "nuisance", where a lot of the other shakes on the market have gone for the health and fitness angle, or the "I'm too important and busy to sit down and have breakfeast so I'll down a shake on the go" angle. But it's not bringing much more than marketing.
- Questron 9y ago
  It's: "Look! I'm busy! I'm important! I eat special food!"
  - nf05papsjfVbc 9y ago
    Are you unwilling to consider that there are people for whom food is not a priority and is actually a nuisance? Like say cleaning one's home - which some enjoy and some find a chore.

JohnJamesRambo 9y ago

Meal replacement shakes like Ensure are meant to be supplemental to food. Soylent markets their product as ALL you have to eat, if you so desire. That could have a very different outcome on someone's health. The OP was giving his experiences with it.

DanBC 9y ago
> Meal replacement shakes like Ensure are meant to be supplemental to food. I wish people would stop saying this. There are many products, some are Ensure brands, that can be used as sole source nutrition products. They don't market themselves like that to the general public because they're big companies with lots of lawyers who are cautious about that kind of claim.
- JohnJamesRambo 9y ago
  What Ensure products are meant to be all you ever eat?