>a significant proportion of the population do not grasp the logic behind variables and loops (40% I seem to remember, don't quote me). >These people can still

>a significant proportion of the population do not grasp the logic behind variables and loops (40% I seem to remember, don't quote me). >These people can still graduate with a CS degree. How the heck can someone graduate with a CS degree without grasping variables and loops? These are fundamental to computer programming. Variables are fundamental to algebra. You can't get a CS degree without knowing algebra. Are you talking about some kind of diploma-mill degrees or something?