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> What advantage does Soylent have over say, other meal replacements e.g. Slimfast, weight watcher shakes, juices etc Which of those examples are actual food
by BugsJustFindMe 10y ago
> What advantage does Soylent have over say, other meal replacements e.g. Slimfast, weight watcher shakes, juices etc
Which of those examples are actual food replacements instead of liquid candy blasted with vitamins?
Slimfast high protein is the only option I see online that doesn't include huge amounts of sugar, but a single 180 calorie shake also gives way too much vitamins and protein to be sane times 10, which is what you need to get a day's worth of calories from it.
Weight watchers shakes look like they have exactly the same issue as slimfast high protein, except with more sugar and more servings required.
So here you are crapping on the product, but you actually haven't pointed to a realistic replacement for it.
- atomical 10y agoProtein isn't a panacea. Eating 2,000 calories of Soylent a day would mean consuming 100 grams of protein. That's unnecessary for the average person.
- viridian 10y agoMan, I wish I needed 100g of protein a day. I try to be very conservative on my intake, and I still need 142g minimum at 180 pounds.
- rhblake 10y agoRDA for protein is 0.8g/kg (~0.36/pound), so about 65g in your case if you're sedentary. 1g/pound is an old bodybuilder myth according to this article [0] which goes through various studies: "many review papers have concluded 0.82g/lb is the upper limit at which protein intake benefits body composition". This is for strength athletes and bodybuilders, mind you: most people (even many athletes) need far, far less. [0] http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/ http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-pro...
- BugsJustFindMe 10y ago> 1g/pound is an old bodybuilder myth according to this article Except that every time I've ever seen/heard it from bodybuilders it has always been 1g per lean pound which fits pretty well with your 0.82 figure accounting for typical bodyfat percentages. So your article is arguing a strawman and they've been right all along.
- rhblake 10y agoYou're right, I forgot about that. My main point was that parent is probably overdoing it (even if he/she were a bodybuilder), and this seems to be quite common.
- sheepmullet 10y agoWhat do you mean by overdoing it? It's hard, although possible, to have too much protein.
- BugsJustFindMe 10y agoEating 2000 calories of Slimfast notcompletelysugar^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^high protein, because it seems to be their only option that isn't giant heaping piles of sugar, would net you 222g (and wickedly overload you on vitamins, but, you know, whatever, right?). Which would you prefer?
- atomical 10y agoEat some fruit and vegetables.
- vorpalhex 10y agoThat's not a massive ton of protein. It's probably a bit more than the average person is likely to make use of but I'd rather an extra 20g of protein than an extra 20g+ of sugar.
- crispyambulance 10y ago>... haven't pointed to a realistic replacement for it. The "realistic replacement" is to not worry too much about perfectly balanced nutrition if you need skip an actual real meal occasionally. The body can handle it.
- squeaky-clean 10y agoBuy why not Soylent? Why is it so offensive compared to not eating at all or eating Taco Bell or a few granola bars? A better alternative to Soylent is going hungry? Why?
- DanBC 10y ago> Buy why not Soylent? Why is it so offensive compared to not eating at all or eating Taco Bell or a few granola bars? When Soylent launched they made several misleading, unethical, medical, claims. They've since dropped every single one of those. Soylent have had a number of product recalls. They don't have a huge volume of product, and they've only been in business for a short time, so it's a bit worrying that they haven't fixed their problems. Some people think that when you're raising money from the public you should be honest. Some people think that when you're providing a safety critical product you should be competent. There's also an element of backlash against the massive hype / very successful marketing - we see this with any product.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoProducts for people on feeding tubes like Jevity? Last I checked Soylent contained Sucralose (Splenda).
- musesum 10y ago> ... sucralose Funny how that information buried on the site. I've re-ordered a few times based on its (prominently featured) use of Isomaltulose, thinking that is where the sweetness came from. Some evidence that sucralose will spike insulin. Seems to jibe with personal experience. Will probably hold off until they eliminate sucralose. Perhaps trehalose?
- nommm-nommm 10y agoI don't like artificial sweeteners because I am worried about changes in gut bacteria. There's some research suggesting it may.
- xeromal 10y agoMeaning they'll eventually become capable of digesting sucralose? Or that the artificial sugars are killing our gut bacteria. One I care about. Haha.
- nommm-nommm 10y agohttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweeteners-may-change-our-gut-bacteria-in-dangerous-ways/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweete... Last year, though, a team of Israeli scientists put together a stronger case. The researchers concluded from studies of mice that ingesting artificial sweeteners might lead to—of all things—obesity and related ailments such as diabetes. This study was not the first to note this link in animals, but it was the first to find evidence of a plausible cause: the sweeteners appear to change the population of intestinal bacteria that direct metabolism, the conversion of food to energy or stored fuel. And this result suggests the connection might also exist in humans.
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- duncan_bayne 10y ago> So here you are crapping on the product, but you actually haven't pointed to a realistic replacement for it. Why should suggesting a replacement be a requirement for criticism?
- glenstein 10y agoIn this particular case, the criticism was that there are better replacements.