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Oh come on... Apple single-handedly revived the software-for-consumers business model with the App Store. Before, people bought a PC with an OEM license for Off

Oh come on... Apple single-handedly revived the software-for-consumers business model with the App Store. Before, people bought a PC with an OEM license for Office and got their son to install a pirated version of Photoshop. There was essentially no market for consumer software outside of games.

rantanplan 10y ago
Revived as in what? Make people believe that 1 million of fart apps is worth paying for? How much value do you put on apps that superimpose dog ears on people in real time video/camera? How many apps have you downloaded and how many are actually useful to you?
- matt4077 10y ago
  You're kinda proving my point.
  - rantanplan 10y ago
    Yeah, I probably misinterpreted what point you were trying to make.
- mwfunk 10y ago
  It's hardly Apple's fault that people aren't willing to pay big money for fart apps. If you want to put a $10 fart app out there, it's not like anyone's stopping you from doing it. Speaking for myself at least, I've purchased quite a few mobile apps over the years. If I need an app in a certain category, I will always get one that costs money over one that's free with ads. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but people like me don't have to be the majority for someone to make money from an app. The only thing that matters is the number of people like me out there, not the percentage of total users we represent. I do think there's much room for improvement of course. I wish they would do stuff like allow people to offer paid upgrades. But claiming that there are literally no good paid apps is just silly.
  - eeZah7Ux 10y ago
    > It's hardly Apple's fault that people aren't willing to pay big money for fart apps. Apple encouraged a market of many cheap-as-in-shoddy $.99 apps instead of inexpensive yet useful and reliable software.
    - rantanplan 10y ago
      A million times this. So basically they conned people into a walled garden without providing any of the benefits they explicitly(or implicitly) promised. As long as they get 30% of fart apps, who cares, right?
    - criddell 10y ago
      A lot of those $.99 apps are useful and reliable enough. I'm constantly amazed at how well made cheap or free apps are. Yes, Sturgeon's Law is a thing, but the apps that aren't crap are often very good.
    - mwfunk 10y ago
      How did they actively encourage that situation, what could possibly be their motivation for wanting that situation (surely they'd rather have 30% of a $10 app vs. 30% of a $1 or free app), and what would you have them do to change that situation? There are literally millions of people who would love to have a healthier market for paid mobile apps, including the company itself. Since you've clearly got the answers and we're all just out here in the wilderness scraping sticks together, please share your insights for the sake of the entire industry.
- a-fake-account 10y ago
  Do you play video games?
eeZah7Ux 10y ago
People often think apple invented the idea of market. "apt-get install ..." existed before. I'm talking about the tooling, not the business model.
- rantanplan 10y ago
  apt-get install is not a business model. Is a way to package and distribute software in general.

rantanplan 10y ago

Revived as in what? Make people believe that 1 million of fart apps is worth paying for? How much value do you put on apps that superimpose dog ears on people in real time video/camera? How many apps have you downloaded and how many are actually useful to you?

matt4077 10y ago
You're kinda proving my point.
- rantanplan 10y ago
  Yeah, I probably misinterpreted what point you were trying to make.
mwfunk 10y ago
It's hardly Apple's fault that people aren't willing to pay big money for fart apps. If you want to put a $10 fart app out there, it's not like anyone's stopping you from doing it. Speaking for myself at least, I've purchased quite a few mobile apps over the years. If I need an app in a certain category, I will always get one that costs money over one that's free with ads. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but people like me don't have to be the majority for someone to make money from an app. The only thing that matters is the number of people like me out there, not the percentage of total users we represent. I do think there's much room for improvement of course. I wish they would do stuff like allow people to offer paid upgrades. But claiming that there are literally no good paid apps is just silly.
- eeZah7Ux 10y ago
  > It's hardly Apple's fault that people aren't willing to pay big money for fart apps. Apple encouraged a market of many cheap-as-in-shoddy $.99 apps instead of inexpensive yet useful and reliable software.
  - rantanplan 10y ago
    A million times this. So basically they conned people into a walled garden without providing any of the benefits they explicitly(or implicitly) promised. As long as they get 30% of fart apps, who cares, right?
  - criddell 10y ago
    A lot of those $.99 apps are useful and reliable enough. I'm constantly amazed at how well made cheap or free apps are. Yes, Sturgeon's Law is a thing, but the apps that aren't crap are often very good.
  - mwfunk 10y ago
    How did they actively encourage that situation, what could possibly be their motivation for wanting that situation (surely they'd rather have 30% of a $10 app vs. 30% of a $1 or free app), and what would you have them do to change that situation? There are literally millions of people who would love to have a healthier market for paid mobile apps, including the company itself. Since you've clearly got the answers and we're all just out here in the wilderness scraping sticks together, please share your insights for the sake of the entire industry.
a-fake-account 10y ago
Do you play video games?

eeZah7Ux 10y ago

People often think apple invented the idea of market. "apt-get install ..." existed before. I'm talking about the tooling, not the business model.

rantanplan 10y ago
apt-get install is not a business model. Is a way to package and distribute software in general.