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If you're concerned about privacy, don't use a free service. Pay for it and the privacy concern usually goes away. If you specifically concerned with US laws go
by mikebos 9y ago
If you're concerned about privacy, don't use a free service. Pay for it and the privacy concern usually goes away.
If you specifically concerned with US laws go German:
https://posteo.de/ https://posteo.de/ is a good one to consider.
- TurboHaskal 9y agoHow is Germany any better?
- ccozan 9y agoHier privacy is like a king. Everyone must ask permission to access any data, otherwise a legal hell will unleash.
- nunobrito 9y agoSimply not true. Telekom gives your data on a plate to whichever agency wants to access it. To the point that an NSA watch post is 5 minutes away from the Telekom headquarters in Darmstadt.
- ccozan 9y agoNot anymore. Yes, they used to, but since some incidents with NSA spying Merkel&Co, they closed all such collaboration programs. Now they are building something like a closed garden, where only german interests have access. If this is tamper and intrusion proof, this is other story.
- nunobrito 9y agoThe Merkel case was denounced by an infosec outsider during a local security event. The local government/news played down the shock and made sure that no real (legal) consequences would happen. Would therefore say that collaboration still happening, perhaps not so voluntarily with the new gov but doesn't really differ much. More worrying is the dark fiber backbone between Frankfurt and Darmstadt and the satellite uplink from both space agencies placed on the same city. Plus the fact they keep hiring more contractors to work on that specific location. If critical networks are monitored, civilian networks stand less of a chance.
- TurboHaskal 9y agoJudging by the country's past practices and the prevalent culture of "I value my privacy, yet want to know everything about you" I'd rather have the Americans or the Russians reading my mail.
- akulbe 9y agoThis is true with Google, as well. Yes, my earlier comment was about setting up a domain on mailinabox. That said, for my business? I use G Suite. For everything. I pay. No ads. No privacy concerns. It just works. I keep backups, but in ~13 years (I've been on Gmail since nearly day one) I've never had any issues.
- ccozan 9y agoI was amazed to find out that is just 4 euro a month per user. I mean, if someone ( or a company ) cannot afford this amount, then they don't really value their privacy.
- sleepingeights 9y agoEither way they're going to be digging through the emails. NSA and I think the US military is allowed to hack into any communication traversing boundaries between countries. And Germany is also part of the alliance of the many eyed spies. You're either going up against NSA/Military grade surveillance that feeds into FBI, DHS, CIA, etc... databases, or going up against "internal" politics and services that does the same.
- medecau 9y agoIf your threat model includes NSA you're fucked. For everything else, use Signal.
- mintplant 9y agoHow exactly do privacy concerns "go away" when you start paying? Your email is still readable by a third party. On the other hand, I can see trusting a paid provider more for reasons of stability, level of support (in case, say, I lose access to my account), and continued development (the Gmail webclient has been relatively stagnant for a while now).
- awendt 9y agoIt may be readable by them but their life (as a business) does not depend on the content of your conversations. That's a big difference.