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The responses attacking your point here seem to be operating under the assumption that the manager, and the OP's peers, don't recognize when someone is obfuscat

The responses attacking your point here seem to be operating under the assumption that the manager, and the OP's peers, don't recognize when someone is obfuscating their effort and/or results. People notice. "Bullshitting" is defined as "be misleading or deceptive" and the cost of this is borne not only by "management" (who presumably is in this constant mode of misleading or deceiving you), but by your peers who are dependent on you, or who are waiting for you to deliver. As someone who gets burned out from time to time, I totally get it. It's tempting. I don't know the best general solution, especially if you're in an environment of distrust (rather than what superplussed assumes). But maybe explore some other paths? If you're in a job where in order to function, you have to deceive your management AND your peers, maybe you'd be happier in a different situation or company or role. To the OP: are you trapped in your situation? (It may very well be that you are, for instance, due to market conditions or visa situation, which sheds some light on why you're opting for deception.)

orthecreedence 9y ago
Perhaps people notice, perhaps not. But if they do notice, they most likely understand the pressure and the situation and relate to it. I know I've covered for others when they aren't jamming out project after project. Also, not trapped in any way. I love my job and my employers. But sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place...there are hard deadlines to meet, and high pressure to meet them, and working on developer tooling or just coming out and saying "I'm burned out, not going to work this week lol" won't fly. I'm interested to hear how you would handle a high-pressure situation where people are expecting you to pull through and you just. can't. deliver. for 7 straight days with nobody else there who can step in and do your job. Your answer is to "explore other paths." Do you have suggestions? (I am truly asking, not trying to back you into a corner). The easy answers of "find a lower pressure job!" are bullshit, and anyone who suggests that knows it. It's a morally superior brush-off to a difficult problem. What do you do/say to stay ethically "correct" while not jeopardizing your image/position and simultaneously gaining the understanding of your peers and those who are driving you to complete your tasks?

orthecreedence 9y ago

Perhaps people notice, perhaps not. But if they do notice, they most likely understand the pressure and the situation and relate to it. I know I've covered for others when they aren't jamming out project after project. Also, not trapped in any way. I love my job and my employers. But sometimes stuck between a rock and a hard place...there are hard deadlines to meet, and high pressure to meet them, and working on developer tooling or just coming out and saying "I'm burned out, not going to work this week lol" won't fly. I'm interested to hear how you would handle a high-pressure situation where people are expecting you to pull through and you just. can't. deliver. for 7 straight days with nobody else there who can step in and do your job. Your answer is to "explore other paths." Do you have suggestions? (I am truly asking, not trying to back you into a corner). The easy answers of "find a lower pressure job!" are bullshit, and anyone who suggests that knows it. It's a morally superior brush-off to a difficult problem. What do you do/say to stay ethically "correct" while not jeopardizing your image/position and simultaneously gaining the understanding of your peers and those who are driving you to complete your tasks?