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Swords and shields. People can't really see it yet, partially due to a unwillingness to see the darker side of humanity, but a real cyber security expert is wo

Swords and shields. People can't really see it yet, partially due to a unwillingness to see the darker side of humanity, but a real cyber security expert is worth more than a cruise missile. Planes, self-driving cars, swarms of aerial and underwater drones, fraud, propaganda, auto-targeting laser systems, surveillance, power generation and distribution, command and control interruption, machine learning + cyber warfare. Who needs nuclear weapons when you have a zero day on a hundred million self-driving cars and you can get them to the nearest gas station or chemical plant going 300km/h?

Nition 10y ago
I wish the present was a little less obsessed with having everything Internet-connected. I don't want an Internet connection on my self-driving car, or at least have an air gap between the user functions and the car's driving computer. But that won't happen because the company will be more worried about being able to push updates than about security. To be fair I guess even with a non-connected car that I have to update via USB, I could still download a malicious update. But at least we won't all get the malicious update pushed at once.
- desdiv 10y ago
  All I see is praise for Tesla on HN. I rarely see sentiments like "Tesla makes great cars, but I just wish their ECU and other critical systems wasn't internet connected" or "I refuse to buy any Tesla products until they remove the constant user tracking". People vote with their wallets, and if the technology-savvy and privacy-conscious HN crowd is voting this way then...
  - lyqwyd 10y ago
    It's almost 1984
  - Pica_soO 10y ago
    .. nothing changes. We are too small of a group, even as influencers to change that. However, if someday a zeroday is used to duke it out, a very angry, very unreasonable, not interested PR-Bla and Excuses crowd is going to assemble outside someones office tower. The someone will call the police, but the police will be busy, with the mess someones ECU peeping has made. The privat guards will do what private guards always do, if they see no good outcome for themselves and step aside. The escape helicopter pilot will have lost loved ones in the mess and take off. Someone is going to get shoved out the airlock, for all the other someones to see. That will have a interesting learning effect. Thus ended the lesson.
pharrlax 10y ago
I'm increasingly convinced everyone is going to continue not to care, and then suddenly a 9/11-scale (or greater) event will occur, and it'll be 2002 all over again -- wild overreaction driven by hysteria.
- pavement 10y ago
  (or greater) Wide-spread internet-enabled command and control, plus long term surreptitious reconnaissance, coupled together with machine learning to maximize impact, and I'll hazard a guess that such a scenario can reach beyond the destruction of 4 full airplanes and 3 inhabited large buildings, in ways too uncomfortable to contemplate.
  - jacobush 10y ago
    The impact of 9/11 was not just some airplanes and buildings - the impact was the whole of the Middle East in turmoil and a refugee wave not seen since WW2.

Nition 10y ago

I wish the present was a little less obsessed with having everything Internet-connected. I don't want an Internet connection on my self-driving car, or at least have an air gap between the user functions and the car's driving computer. But that won't happen because the company will be more worried about being able to push updates than about security. To be fair I guess even with a non-connected car that I have to update via USB, I could still download a malicious update. But at least we won't all get the malicious update pushed at once.

desdiv 10y ago
All I see is praise for Tesla on HN. I rarely see sentiments like "Tesla makes great cars, but I just wish their ECU and other critical systems wasn't internet connected" or "I refuse to buy any Tesla products until they remove the constant user tracking". People vote with their wallets, and if the technology-savvy and privacy-conscious HN crowd is voting this way then...
- lyqwyd 10y ago
  It's almost 1984
- Pica_soO 10y ago
  .. nothing changes. We are too small of a group, even as influencers to change that. However, if someday a zeroday is used to duke it out, a very angry, very unreasonable, not interested PR-Bla and Excuses crowd is going to assemble outside someones office tower. The someone will call the police, but the police will be busy, with the mess someones ECU peeping has made. The privat guards will do what private guards always do, if they see no good outcome for themselves and step aside. The escape helicopter pilot will have lost loved ones in the mess and take off. Someone is going to get shoved out the airlock, for all the other someones to see. That will have a interesting learning effect. Thus ended the lesson.

pharrlax 10y ago

I'm increasingly convinced everyone is going to continue not to care, and then suddenly a 9/11-scale (or greater) event will occur, and it'll be 2002 all over again -- wild overreaction driven by hysteria.

pavement 10y ago
(or greater) Wide-spread internet-enabled command and control, plus long term surreptitious reconnaissance, coupled together with machine learning to maximize impact, and I'll hazard a guess that such a scenario can reach beyond the destruction of 4 full airplanes and 3 inhabited large buildings, in ways too uncomfortable to contemplate.
- jacobush 10y ago
  The impact of 9/11 was not just some airplanes and buildings - the impact was the whole of the Middle East in turmoil and a refugee wave not seen since WW2.