>Also in 2013 Musk's company claimed the Model S makes 176g CO2 per mile, controlling their claim gives "346g per mile - more than the 312g per mile the EPA say

>Also in 2013 Musk's company claimed the Model S makes 176g CO2 per mile, controlling their claim gives "346g per mile - more than the 312g per mile the EPA says the Toyota Highlander emits." The EPA mileage calculation is based on a set ratio of city/highway miles (35/65 IIRC). Obviously that does not reflect reality perfectly. It is also a description of ideal driving habits, which of course people do not follow. That link is wholly ridiculous. Its rejecting the EPA data as over-optimistic and then comparing it to... EPA data. I'm gonna go ahead and say that those ratings are also optimistic. Your quote appears nowhere in the article, which says that the Model S emits 228g per mile, just shy of two hybrids. The grid will continue to add renewables. Hybrids will be very quickly left behind. Plus, this is a massive luxury car- the model 3 will have much lower consumption, being a smaller car. >My main argument stays -- there's no reason to believe Musk, and every for an independent careful control of his claims. That's not an argument- it's a character attack. That's not a counterpoint to actual information.