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And then there's everything in between. That's where the actual debate is. Was "WMDs in Iraq!" fake news in 2002, 2003, or 2004?
by PierreRochard 9y ago
And then there's everything in between. That's where the actual debate is. Was "WMDs in Iraq!" fake news in 2002, 2003, or 2004?
- Consultant32452 9y agoWatching this has helped me, at least somewhat, decipher what is said in the media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmoXze-Higc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmoXze-Higc Of course, it doesn't help for outright lies like WMDs in Iraq.
- JBReefer 9y agoThough your broader point holds, they did in fact find WMDs in Iraq, but it wasn't really big news (or especially serious weapons) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Post-war_discoveries_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destr...
- PierreRochard 9y agoWow! This is interesting. I thought the "WMDs in Iraq" was fake news, turns out the "no WMDs in Iraq" is fake news! So much fake news, hard to sort everything out.
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- diogenescynic 9y agoThe WMDs that Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Rumsfield, and Colin Powell were referring to were nuclear weapons [1] though, not chemical weapons. We already knew he had chemical weapons: >President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell and George Tenet, to name a few leading figures, built support for the war by telling the world that Saddam Hussein was stockpiling chemical weapons, feverishly developing germ warfare devices and racing to build a nuclear bomb. Some of them, notably Mr. Cheney, the administration's doomsayer in chief, said Iraq had conspired with Al Qaeda that Saddam Hussein was connected to 9/11. 1: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/02/opinion/remember-that-mushroom-cloud.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/02/opinion/remember-that-mush...
- JBReefer 9y agoOh you're definitely correct, I was just surprised when I learned that fact, and there's a bit of a "No WMDs at all!" echo chamber.
- abritinthebay 9y agoBy that tho they use WMDs as shorthand for "none of the WMDs they claimed were there, were". Almost exclusively. Which is true.
- golergka 9y agoThat's the first time I hear about nuclear weapons in this context - I was always under impression that this was about chemical weapons, which they found a lot of evidence of after the invasion.
- Consultant32452 9y agoI specifically recall LOTS of talk about "mushroom clouds" from the Bush administration leading up to the war. We knew they had chemical weapons because we sold them to them.
- diogenescynic 9y agoRead the article I linked above. It's from that time period and Cheney and others specifically tried to link Iraq to nuclear weapons and Al Qaeda. It was fear-mongering and lying to justify the war and the Bush administration knew it: http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-...