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I don't know how common the personal safety situations you mention are, but if they are anything more than complete anamoly, then our society is in sad shape in

I don't know how common the personal safety situations you mention are, but if they are anything more than complete anamoly, then our society is in sad shape indeed. Other developed countries in Europe and Asia have much lower intentional homicide rates. Why are we such a murderous bunch in the US?

AmIFirstToThink 10y ago
If you count gun violence only, that may be true. That is to say we use civil methods to attack one another. In Asia, if bare fists and feet aren't enough (most of the time they are) then stones, sticks, ropes, iron rods, dull knives, acid or kerosene serve the purpose. Criminals don't really need to carry guns, because government ensures that citizenry is disarmed. I think a granny with stick and a goon with stick, stick is not much of an equalizer. Granny with gun? now she stands a chance, if she wants to take it. US killed their goons in the streets, posse, sheriffs, bounty hunters, armed shop keepers, business owners and homeowners. West developed that way and I sincerely think is better because of it. Goon cultures in most of Asia would be suffocating to bear for most US westerners. Trust me you don't want it here.
- jaredklewis 10y ago
  No, it is not just by gun violence. Regardless of method, other developed countries have a far low rate of intentional homicide than the US. Of course many countries, like Russia or Brazil have a much worse rates of intentional homicide than the US. But when compared to other developed countries like Japan, Germany, France and so on, the US is much higher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...
  - AmIFirstToThink 10y ago
    Japan and Germany are far more homogeneous societies. Not same number of conflicts or cultural pressures as USA. France may be little more tolerant of abuse than us. I would rather have a violent confrontation than long term abuse.
DamnYuppie 10y ago
There are racial and demographic components to that question that are not politically correct to answer. If one were inclined to dig into the FBI's statistics they would find a large portion are of a certain minority who are killing other members of that same group. These groups are also in low income areas with little prospects for good jobs. They also, ironically, seem to inhabit areas with very strict gun laws. Often when I see this topic come up I think the violence is not caused by weapons but by an environment that doesn't have much opportunity for them.
- AmIFirstToThink 10y ago
  People can take time to come up with solutions to problem of lack of opportunity. And take time to implement those solutions. People shouldn't stop others from having an option to arm themselves while these solutions are being envisioned and implemented with some success.

AmIFirstToThink 10y ago

If you count gun violence only, that may be true. That is to say we use civil methods to attack one another. In Asia, if bare fists and feet aren't enough (most of the time they are) then stones, sticks, ropes, iron rods, dull knives, acid or kerosene serve the purpose. Criminals don't really need to carry guns, because government ensures that citizenry is disarmed. I think a granny with stick and a goon with stick, stick is not much of an equalizer. Granny with gun? now she stands a chance, if she wants to take it. US killed their goons in the streets, posse, sheriffs, bounty hunters, armed shop keepers, business owners and homeowners. West developed that way and I sincerely think is better because of it. Goon cultures in most of Asia would be suffocating to bear for most US westerners. Trust me you don't want it here.

jaredklewis 10y ago
No, it is not just by gun violence. Regardless of method, other developed countries have a far low rate of intentional homicide than the US. Of course many countries, like Russia or Brazil have a much worse rates of intentional homicide than the US. But when compared to other developed countries like Japan, Germany, France and so on, the US is much higher. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...
- AmIFirstToThink 10y ago
  Japan and Germany are far more homogeneous societies. Not same number of conflicts or cultural pressures as USA. France may be little more tolerant of abuse than us. I would rather have a violent confrontation than long term abuse.

DamnYuppie 10y ago

There are racial and demographic components to that question that are not politically correct to answer. If one were inclined to dig into the FBI's statistics they would find a large portion are of a certain minority who are killing other members of that same group. These groups are also in low income areas with little prospects for good jobs. They also, ironically, seem to inhabit areas with very strict gun laws. Often when I see this topic come up I think the violence is not caused by weapons but by an environment that doesn't have much opportunity for them.

AmIFirstToThink 10y ago
People can take time to come up with solutions to problem of lack of opportunity. And take time to implement those solutions. People shouldn't stop others from having an option to arm themselves while these solutions are being envisioned and implemented with some success.