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Creating a throwaway since I've taken part of this internal discussion at Facebook. Once normalized for skill level (i.e. junior engineer, engineer, senior engi
by randomact2452 9y ago
Creating a throwaway since I've taken part of this internal discussion at Facebook. Once normalized for skill level (i.e. junior engineer, engineer, senior engineer) the level of rejection between genders is the same.
- jlebrech 9y agoit's sad that you have to create a throwaway to have a genuine opinion here.
- ReverseCold 9y agoHe works at Facebook and is stating it as a fact.
- justin66 9y agoHe's a random, anonymous person who says he works at Facebook. Unless you're vouching for him?
- tremon 9y agoI think that's not related to "here". It's more likely that that is because they've "taken part of this internal discussion at Facebook".
- jjawssd 9y agoWhy is your username green?
- anothercomment 9y agoBecause it is new (throwaway). HN colors new accounts green.
- scandox 9y agoBecause new accounts are green and his account is a throwaway account which he just created for the purpose of making this single comment.
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- jakelazaroff 9y agoWhy is parent being downvoted for asking a simple question?
- kordless 9y agoFacebook. See my comment.
- BugsJustFindMe 9y agoI'd be happier with your statement if you replaced "skill level" with "seniority", because the two aren't really equivalent.
- Someone1234 9y agoThey aren't for an individual, they are for a data set. Meaning that more senior people have a higher skill in the aggregate, and given the context they're talking about at least dozens of data points. One exception doesn't discount the trend.
- itsdrewmiller 9y agoThe study that showed the bias accounted for seniority at Facebook (though not previous experience). That seems more valid overall than "rank" which, if these biases do exist, one would expect to also be influenced by them.
- Kinnard 9y agoHow do you distinguish between rank/seniority and skill-level?
- cbtacy 9y agoAnd can you share insights into what percentage of female engineers there see promotion (as compared to males), and if it's at the same velocity? Because, you know... spin.
- kordless 9y agoOh, don't worry about that now. They've already moved to have the article removed from HN. Conversation over! ;)
- Geekette 9y agoDoes this mean employees eventually shown more details? The WSJ article I read[1] cast both analyses as flawed in that the employee's study may not have accounted for an engineer’s previous experience before joining FB, while the official one apparently failed to offer enough data to conclusively rule out gender bias and employees' request for more detailed data was denied. https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebooks-female-engineers-claim-gender-bias-1493737116 https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebooks-female-engineers-clai...
- agumonkey 9y agoDoes this mean Fb hired more junior women ? it would be ironic if trying to get more girls into a company would backfire in the medias now..