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Compared to what? I've seen much simpler driver's licenses from other countries. Up until recently (2013 maybe) the French driver's license was literally a pi

Compared to what? I've seen much simpler driver's licenses from other countries. Up until recently (2013 maybe) the French driver's license was literally a piece of pink paper with a picture glued to it. http://flawlessfakeids.com/wp-content/uploads/French-Fake-Driving-Licence-2.jpg http://flawlessfakeids.com/wp-content/uploads/French-Fake-Dr...

thomasmarcelis 9y ago
But a drivers license is not a valid proof of identification here
- emodendroket 9y ago
  Surely unlicensed drivers are at least as valid a concern. Most fake IDs I've seen are non-driver IDs.
danielbln 9y ago
Compared to Germany for example with a bunch of holograms and whatnot: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/DE_Licence_2013_Front.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/DE_Licen... In contrast to e.g. the French, our drivers licence is a valid means of identification though.
- eli 9y ago
  That looks similar to many of the new US state IDs due to increased security requirements of REAL ID. My Washington, DC license has a holograms and a neat translucent panel where you can see my photo if you hold it up to the light. I would guess it is very hard to fake.
- Symbiote 9y ago
  That's the standard European driving license, which everyone has used since 2013, but many countries used from much earlier (2006-ish?). This can prove your name and age, but not your nationality.
  - danielbln 9y ago
    That's a fair point, you can't use a EU driver's licence for traveling.
glenneroo 9y ago
Same in Austria, a pink piece of paper until a couple years ago. http://diepresse.com/images/uploads/5/e/b/1299947/ansturm_scheckkartenfuehrerschein_fuehrerschein20121011083345_v0_h.jpg http://diepresse.com/images/uploads/5/e/b/1299947/ansturm_sc... p.s. your link is broken: > The owner of this website (flawlessfakeids.com) does not allow hotlinking to that resource
realusername 9y ago
Yes but in France you have an ID card, you don't need the driving license to identify you.
ygra 9y ago
France probably has a proper ID card and doesn't have to use the driver's license as ID. So the driver's license is just that and since whenever you're stopped by police while driving they can verify you actually having one duplication isn't a real risk.

thomasmarcelis 9y ago

But a drivers license is not a valid proof of identification here

emodendroket 9y ago
Surely unlicensed drivers are at least as valid a concern. Most fake IDs I've seen are non-driver IDs.

danielbln 9y ago

Compared to Germany for example with a bunch of holograms and whatnot: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/DE_Licence_2013_Front.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/DE_Licen... In contrast to e.g. the French, our drivers licence is a valid means of identification though.

eli 9y ago
That looks similar to many of the new US state IDs due to increased security requirements of REAL ID. My Washington, DC license has a holograms and a neat translucent panel where you can see my photo if you hold it up to the light. I would guess it is very hard to fake.
Symbiote 9y ago
That's the standard European driving license, which everyone has used since 2013, but many countries used from much earlier (2006-ish?). This can prove your name and age, but not your nationality.
- danielbln 9y ago
  That's a fair point, you can't use a EU driver's licence for traveling.

glenneroo 9y ago

Same in Austria, a pink piece of paper until a couple years ago. http://diepresse.com/images/uploads/5/e/b/1299947/ansturm_scheckkartenfuehrerschein_fuehrerschein20121011083345_v0_h.jpg http://diepresse.com/images/uploads/5/e/b/1299947/ansturm_sc... p.s. your link is broken: > The owner of this website (flawlessfakeids.com) does not allow hotlinking to that resource

realusername 9y ago

Yes but in France you have an ID card, you don't need the driving license to identify you.

ygra 9y ago

France probably has a proper ID card and doesn't have to use the driver's license as ID. So the driver's license is just that and since whenever you're stopped by police while driving they can verify you actually having one duplication isn't a real risk.