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Conservationists. There's a distinction made between conservation and preservation - skipping the details I mostly don't remember, on average conservationists w

Conservationists. There's a distinction made between conservation and preservation - skipping the details I mostly don't remember, on average conservationists want to use resources "wisely" (sustainable forestry, low impact mining, controlled hunting) where preservationists believe more in the intrinsic value of the land, and frequently be more against logging at all, or mining at all. In my experience most environmentalists like or at least agree with hunting, but most of them are also conservationists. Also, somewhat off topic: the need to manage deer populations is a direct result of killing large predators, and our tendency to break up large local biomes into smaller fragmented ones. No wolves + lots of edge habitat = lots of deer.

Qwertious 9y ago
It bugs me that "conservationist" and "conservative" are two entirely different words (with entirely different meanings). It shouldn't be like that at all.
- zeveb 9y ago
  As a conservative & conservationist, I feel that they mean much the same. I want to conserve, preserve & improve nature for our benefit, and I want to conserve, preserve & improve our culture and government for our benefit as well.
jaegerpicker 9y ago
You are partly right about the need to manager deer populations but the key problem is that the cat is out of the bag, in regards to sprawl and large predators. The basic fact is that we are never going to reverse that unless there is sweeping and catastrophic changes to society. Also that leaves a HUGE reason to manage deer populations, hunting itself. Many people use hunting to supplement their normal meat supply and without some form of Government management wildlife would be quickly destroyed. See the American Bison as an example, though just one of many.
- roflc0ptic 9y ago
  Wholly agreed. Given where we're at, hunt away. WRT to bison, their population is depleted specifically because of the US government's Native American eradication program. The US military provided bullets to hunters. The iconic image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bison_skull_pile-restored.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bison_skull_pile-restored... this was policy. And in fact, the USG still works to limit their population - http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ find themselves regularly in conflict with... BLM, I think. Some federal group(s), at any rate.

Qwertious 9y ago

It bugs me that "conservationist" and "conservative" are two entirely different words (with entirely different meanings). It shouldn't be like that at all.

zeveb 9y ago
As a conservative & conservationist, I feel that they mean much the same. I want to conserve, preserve & improve nature for our benefit, and I want to conserve, preserve & improve our culture and government for our benefit as well.

jaegerpicker 9y ago

You are partly right about the need to manager deer populations but the key problem is that the cat is out of the bag, in regards to sprawl and large predators. The basic fact is that we are never going to reverse that unless there is sweeping and catastrophic changes to society. Also that leaves a HUGE reason to manage deer populations, hunting itself. Many people use hunting to supplement their normal meat supply and without some form of Government management wildlife would be quickly destroyed. See the American Bison as an example, though just one of many.

roflc0ptic 9y ago
Wholly agreed. Given where we're at, hunt away. WRT to bison, their population is depleted specifically because of the US government's Native American eradication program. The US military provided bullets to hunters. The iconic image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bison_skull_pile-restored.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bison_skull_pile-restored... this was policy. And in fact, the USG still works to limit their population - http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ find themselves regularly in conflict with... BLM, I think. Some federal group(s), at any rate.