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Diseases are just that, diseases, not invasive or not. 'Invasive' is about competition, not direct attack. Goes for all your examples. So if you're saying 'don'

by roel_v 10y ago

Diseases are just that, diseases, not invasive or not. 'Invasive' is about competition, not direct attack. Goes for all your examples. So if you're saying 'don't import diseases' - well yeah. But that's not the point here. Please tell which fungi, bacteria and insects spread through the vector you propose. Where do you think the seed you buy in your local garden center comes from?

semi-extrinsic 10y ago
I already gave several examples of bad stuff that spreads through the proposed vectors. If you would like some literature to back this up, here you go. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/070151/full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/070151/full http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800904003027 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800904... http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/vbz.2011.0814 http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/vbz.2011.0814 The second one of those estimates the economic damage caused by invasive species in the US as $97 billion during the 20th century. If you would rather like something written for the general public, here is an info page from the Australian government - or you could just try taking your imported seeds with you in your hand luggage when flying into Sydney, and see how well that goes. http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive-species/diseases-fungi-and-parasites http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive-species/... The seeds you buy at your local garden center are subject to national and international laws, regulations and agreements specifically written based on work of hundreds of scientists to prevent as much as possible the introduction of diseases and other bad things that don't exist where you live. The garden center has to follow these regulations (and document compliance) or they get fined. When you buy seeds on eBay or AliExpress or wherever, there simply are no regulations on the sellers. Do you dispute this simple fact?
TheOtherHobbes 10y ago
Some facts: http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1016&context=entodistmasters http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=10...

by roel_v 10y ago

semi-extrinsic 10y ago

I already gave several examples of bad stuff that spreads through the proposed vectors. If you would like some literature to back this up, here you go. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/070151/full http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/070151/full http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800904003027 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800904... http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/vbz.2011.0814 http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/vbz.2011.0814 The second one of those estimates the economic damage caused by invasive species in the US as $97 billion during the 20th century. If you would rather like something written for the general public, here is an info page from the Australian government - or you could just try taking your imported seeds with you in your hand luggage when flying into Sydney, and see how well that goes. http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive-species/diseases-fungi-and-parasites http://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/invasive-species/... The seeds you buy at your local garden center are subject to national and international laws, regulations and agreements specifically written based on work of hundreds of scientists to prevent as much as possible the introduction of diseases and other bad things that don't exist where you live. The garden center has to follow these regulations (and document compliance) or they get fined. When you buy seeds on eBay or AliExpress or wherever, there simply are no regulations on the sellers. Do you dispute this simple fact?

TheOtherHobbes 10y ago

Some facts: http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1016&context=entodistmasters http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=10...