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He won according to the system that's been in place for 100-200 years. You don't get to support it until it works against you and then complain about it.

hobs 9y ago
"That's been in place for 100-200 years" The gerrymandered system with even more party control is not the system that has been in place for anywhere near that amount of that time. The parties in place dont have that kind of history either. Our voting laws are different, even non-white men can vote now! (though they are disenfranchised as much as possible.) Basically, the system is constantly in flux, ad yes, we get to complain about it all we want and change it (again.)
- hueving 9y ago
  Nope, gerrymandering has no effect on the presidential election because states are not having their borders redrawn. There are maybe two states that have large electoral college districts that could be impacted by it, but they are irrelevant in the larger picture.
panglott 9y ago
The electoral college system has obviously been a terrible idea for years. Plenty of people also vocally complained about it in 2000, for example. But changing it requires changing the Constitution, which requires a supermajority of state legislatures—and the electoral college shifts power from citizens and the federal government to states.
- sbov 9y ago
  It actually doesn't require changing the Constitution. States are allowed to allocate votes however they want. Several states have passed laws that say: when enough states pass a similar law to determine the presidency, all of our electoral college votes will go to the winner of the national popular vote. This hack lowers the barrier, but not by enough, at least yet.
plandis 9y ago
A relatively large amount of states (by electoral votes) don't support it and have held that position (and tried to change it) prior to the election.

hobs 9y ago

"That's been in place for 100-200 years" The gerrymandered system with even more party control is not the system that has been in place for anywhere near that amount of that time. The parties in place dont have that kind of history either. Our voting laws are different, even non-white men can vote now! (though they are disenfranchised as much as possible.) Basically, the system is constantly in flux, ad yes, we get to complain about it all we want and change it (again.)

hueving 9y ago
Nope, gerrymandering has no effect on the presidential election because states are not having their borders redrawn. There are maybe two states that have large electoral college districts that could be impacted by it, but they are irrelevant in the larger picture.

panglott 9y ago

The electoral college system has obviously been a terrible idea for years. Plenty of people also vocally complained about it in 2000, for example. But changing it requires changing the Constitution, which requires a supermajority of state legislatures—and the electoral college shifts power from citizens and the federal government to states.

sbov 9y ago
It actually doesn't require changing the Constitution. States are allowed to allocate votes however they want. Several states have passed laws that say: when enough states pass a similar law to determine the presidency, all of our electoral college votes will go to the winner of the national popular vote. This hack lowers the barrier, but not by enough, at least yet.

plandis 9y ago

A relatively large amount of states (by electoral votes) don't support it and have held that position (and tried to change it) prior to the election.