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You closed the page immediately after learning that it has been built with Electron? Thanks for letting us know. The ideas are nice indeed, but stating that doe

You closed the page immediately after learning that it has been built with Electron? Thanks for letting us know. The ideas are nice indeed, but stating that doesn't make your comment add anything to the (potential) discussion. Electron is a memory-hog and I see how the trade-offs it does wouldn't suit an application which is likely to keep running in the background with multiple instances, and stating that would be much more constructive IMHO. Let's hope author/poster doesn't close the HN tab immediately after seeing your comment :)

ageofwant 10y ago
Its perfectly reasonable to stick with a conclusion once you reached it. You don't stick your penis in the blender every time you walk through the kitchen to check whether or not its still as unpleasant as before. At some time you may actually commit to accepting the evidence. Having a open mind should not stop you from learning.
- egeozcan 10y ago
  "I left the restaurant because they used blenders" vs "Blender is unsuitable for preparing {insert dish name} for {reasons here} therefore I don't order it in that restaurant which uses blenders while preparing it". I expect the second from a HN comment. Also, if it's that obvious, why are there many people up-voting this and even then, why would you keep stating the "obvious"? Do you think the scenario you described, written as a "how to blend..." article, would attract attention here?
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >Also, if it's that obvious, why are there many people up-voting this and even then, why would you keep stating the "obvious"? Just because something is obvious, doesn't mean people also consider it obvious. So, one reason to "keep stating the obvious" is to inform those people.
    - egeozcan 10y ago
      Well then you are expected to explain why it is obvious, which is what I'm suggesting in the first place.
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    But isn't resource-bloat something that poisons any application? A blender that emitted harmful radiation would be unsuitable for anything too.
    - egeozcan 10y ago
      Electron is more like the cheapest professional blender that is very fast and gets the job mostly done but leaves some pieces intact. It's a very bad idea to use it in a five-star kitchen where your customers would complain about even the plate arrangement. It's totally fine to use it in a Kebab shop to prepare garlic sauce. Electron is to semi-technical+ users as Beats headphones are to audiophiles.
      - geodel 10y ago
        > Electron is more like the cheapest professional blender that is very fast I think it is a blender that does same thing what most other blenders do but consumes 10 times more power. However it comes in 100s of colors so cool people like this innovative product.
huhtenberg 10y ago
> Thanks for letting us know. Who these "us" you are referring to? As the old saying went back in Fido/BBS times - "unlearn to speak for everyone".
- egeozcan 10y ago
  > Who these "us" you are referring to? "Us", here, refers to the HN readers. > As the old saying went back in Fido/BBS times - "unlearn to speak for everyone". I didn't say that we all thank the author. In that sentence, the person who is thanking is me, let alone the whole thing being a figure of speech.
  - huhtenberg 10y ago
    That sentence is a snark gratuitously attributed to more than yourself.
    - egeozcan 10y ago
      I don't understand your concern. Does anyone read my comment and think that I think that I represent the HN readers? I doubt it, but, I'm sorry if that's the case. Do you want me to admit it that single sentence was sarcastic? Well, yes it is but I explained myself in detail afterwards. It's neither a dismissal nor lacks content. Your objection to sarcasm in this instance would be unwarranted. Also then, this means your first reply is snark itself.
      - frou_dh 10y ago
        I'm with you. It's an obnoxious habit that people have picked up on news aggregators, to publicly make an announcement that they closed a page.
        coldtea 10y ago
        Heh, I'm with you (though I've made the announcement). But I really don't see much potential in Electron for any kind of heavy app. And even if it was acceptable, I'd still prefer it to be native.
coldtea 10y ago
>You closed the page immediately after learning that it has been built with Electron? Thanks for letting us know. The ideas are nice indeed, but stating that doesn't make your comment add anything to the (potential) discussion Well, what I implied was: I don't think this will go anywhere as long as its tied to Electron. It might be OK for exploration of the UX space, but not for any kind of practical everyday terminal replacement (and I've used the one in VS Code).

ageofwant 10y ago

Its perfectly reasonable to stick with a conclusion once you reached it. You don't stick your penis in the blender every time you walk through the kitchen to check whether or not its still as unpleasant as before. At some time you may actually commit to accepting the evidence. Having a open mind should not stop you from learning.

egeozcan 10y ago
"I left the restaurant because they used blenders" vs "Blender is unsuitable for preparing {insert dish name} for {reasons here} therefore I don't order it in that restaurant which uses blenders while preparing it". I expect the second from a HN comment. Also, if it's that obvious, why are there many people up-voting this and even then, why would you keep stating the "obvious"? Do you think the scenario you described, written as a "how to blend..." article, would attract attention here?
- coldtea 10y ago
  >Also, if it's that obvious, why are there many people up-voting this and even then, why would you keep stating the "obvious"? Just because something is obvious, doesn't mean people also consider it obvious. So, one reason to "keep stating the obvious" is to inform those people.
  - egeozcan 10y ago
    Well then you are expected to explain why it is obvious, which is what I'm suggesting in the first place.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  But isn't resource-bloat something that poisons any application? A blender that emitted harmful radiation would be unsuitable for anything too.
  - egeozcan 10y ago
    Electron is more like the cheapest professional blender that is very fast and gets the job mostly done but leaves some pieces intact. It's a very bad idea to use it in a five-star kitchen where your customers would complain about even the plate arrangement. It's totally fine to use it in a Kebab shop to prepare garlic sauce. Electron is to semi-technical+ users as Beats headphones are to audiophiles.
    - geodel 10y ago
      > Electron is more like the cheapest professional blender that is very fast I think it is a blender that does same thing what most other blenders do but consumes 10 times more power. However it comes in 100s of colors so cool people like this innovative product.

huhtenberg 10y ago

> Thanks for letting us know. Who these "us" you are referring to? As the old saying went back in Fido/BBS times - "unlearn to speak for everyone".

egeozcan 10y ago
> Who these "us" you are referring to? "Us", here, refers to the HN readers. > As the old saying went back in Fido/BBS times - "unlearn to speak for everyone". I didn't say that we all thank the author. In that sentence, the person who is thanking is me, let alone the whole thing being a figure of speech.
- huhtenberg 10y ago
  That sentence is a snark gratuitously attributed to more than yourself.
  - egeozcan 10y ago
    I don't understand your concern. Does anyone read my comment and think that I think that I represent the HN readers? I doubt it, but, I'm sorry if that's the case. Do you want me to admit it that single sentence was sarcastic? Well, yes it is but I explained myself in detail afterwards. It's neither a dismissal nor lacks content. Your objection to sarcasm in this instance would be unwarranted. Also then, this means your first reply is snark itself.
    - frou_dh 10y ago
      I'm with you. It's an obnoxious habit that people have picked up on news aggregators, to publicly make an announcement that they closed a page.
      - coldtea 10y ago
        Heh, I'm with you (though I've made the announcement). But I really don't see much potential in Electron for any kind of heavy app. And even if it was acceptable, I'd still prefer it to be native.

coldtea 10y ago

>You closed the page immediately after learning that it has been built with Electron? Thanks for letting us know. The ideas are nice indeed, but stating that doesn't make your comment add anything to the (potential) discussion Well, what I implied was: I don't think this will go anywhere as long as its tied to Electron. It might be OK for exploration of the UX space, but not for any kind of practical everyday terminal replacement (and I've used the one in VS Code).