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As someone who has hired both males and females for junior and senior engineering positions at several companies, what you are saying is not the case. The codi
by sporkenfang 9y ago
As someone who has hired both males and females for junior and senior engineering positions at several companies, what you are saying is not the case.
The coding challenges and interviews are the same. The decisions of hiring committees I have been on have been actually in general weighted toward white men with experience more often than not, because many of the women I'm seeing are just out of school or with a little experience (which says good things about the future assuming they stick around).
However, I have seen race/gender used as the deciding factor between two candidates who are in all other ways equally excellent and suited for the role (that is, pick the candidate who is not a white male out of two whose skills and resumes and interview performance are equal).
- iammiles 9y agoThis is consistent with what I've experienced hiring newer / junior devs. However, because we didn't have any female developers, we were more likely to offer interviews to females who sent in resumes, but they were asked the same questions we asked everyone else.
- bl4ckm0r3 9y agoAnd did you judge them with the same standards? Give them the same tasks and same support as their male counterparts?
- sporkenfang 9y agoWho's "them" in this case? I think it's important to respect everyone. Part of respect is fair treatment.
- rmartelli 9y agoYes, the coding challenges and interviews are the same. But they are graded differently even before the packet is seen by the hiring committee. I've talked to many interviewers at my company, and many people talk about how they bump up the score of "diversity candidates" even though management says that we don't lower the bar. This is talked about openly. I've only seen this at a Bay Area company. Other companies I have worked at have had a very strong stance against using race or gender as a basis of making hiring decisions.
- zigzigzag 9y agoIt's also the case that the hiring pipelines can be biased in other ways. For instance if a woman fails a phone screen she may be given a second phone screen anyway, or even on-sites anyway, "just in case", whereas the man would have been canned at the first stage. Was definitely told this was happening by recruiters in the past.
- sporkenfang 9y agoInteresting. We have done that for people of any gender in grad programs before when hiring for targeted roles suited for their specialty, but not to my knowledge for candidates by gender.
- esteves_ 9y agoSo, racism against Whites is norm in the IT industry.