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Ahh the old "so what" argument. So what if I can target recovering alchoholics with alchohol ads? So what if I target gambling addicts with my gambling platfo

Ahh the old "so what" argument. So what if I can target recovering alchoholics with alchohol ads? So what if I target gambling addicts with my gambling platform? So what?

lucasmullens 9y ago
There are alcohol and gambling ads on Facebook? Those two in particular often aren't allowed on ad networks.
- Mendenhall 9y ago
  That defeats his whole "so what" argument, Because if those 2 matter others do as well.
- FridgeSeal 9y ago
  I have definitely, definitely seen ads for gambling and sports betting on Facebook.
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > There are alcohol and gambling ads on Facebook? Those two in particular often aren't allowed on ad networks. Gambling? Loads of them, and for what it's worth Farmville and friends IIRC even invented their own virtual currency. Alcohol I haven't seen yet but every major beer and spirits brand has its own Facebook page. Ad networks usually forbid alcohol due to underage-drinking-ad-laws (which FB can avoid due to their real-name policy and them requiring you lots of times to submit a government ID) and gambling due to a host of even more country-specific laws (which FB can certainly spend a lot of lawyer money on to safely navigate them, given that gambling ads usually pay huge sums for well working spots). And I believe that CC processors for ad networks don't like both due to the same issue; with a giant like Facebook, no CC issuer can afford to not deal with them, so they trust FB to not get them in legal trouble.
antongm 9y ago
Those ads are actually prohibited, or at least were when I was there. :)
SimplyUnknown 9y ago
I think that is part of the mistake he makes. "We do <morally wrong advertising thing>, but we also do <other advertising> how is that different?". It isn't, but the logical conclusion of this isn't that they are both "good", they might also be both morally wrong.
jhanschoo 9y ago
On the other hand, I've found that if you're suffering from health or mental problems, the ads that you see are those offering medical and psychiatric help. Which I thought was pretty welcome, contrary to worries of exploitative targeting.

Ahh the old "so what" argument. So what if I can target recovering alchoholics with alchohol ads? So what if I target gambling addicts with my gambling platform? So what?

lucasmullens 9y ago

There are alcohol and gambling ads on Facebook? Those two in particular often aren't allowed on ad networks.

Mendenhall 9y ago
That defeats his whole "so what" argument, Because if those 2 matter others do as well.
FridgeSeal 9y ago
I have definitely, definitely seen ads for gambling and sports betting on Facebook.
mschuster91 9y ago
> There are alcohol and gambling ads on Facebook? Those two in particular often aren't allowed on ad networks. Gambling? Loads of them, and for what it's worth Farmville and friends IIRC even invented their own virtual currency. Alcohol I haven't seen yet but every major beer and spirits brand has its own Facebook page. Ad networks usually forbid alcohol due to underage-drinking-ad-laws (which FB can avoid due to their real-name policy and them requiring you lots of times to submit a government ID) and gambling due to a host of even more country-specific laws (which FB can certainly spend a lot of lawyer money on to safely navigate them, given that gambling ads usually pay huge sums for well working spots). And I believe that CC processors for ad networks don't like both due to the same issue; with a giant like Facebook, no CC issuer can afford to not deal with them, so they trust FB to not get them in legal trouble.

antongm 9y ago

Those ads are actually prohibited, or at least were when I was there. :)

SimplyUnknown 9y ago

I think that is part of the mistake he makes. "We do <morally wrong advertising thing>, but we also do <other advertising> how is that different?". It isn't, but the logical conclusion of this isn't that they are both "good", they might also be both morally wrong.

jhanschoo 9y ago

On the other hand, I've found that if you're suffering from health or mental problems, the ads that you see are those offering medical and psychiatric help. Which I thought was pretty welcome, contrary to worries of exploitative targeting.