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These events have been overrun by non-developers, so it really doesn't say anything about developers: WWDC is a million crappy tech bloggers live blogging about

by ergo98 16y ago

These events have been overrun by non-developers, so it really doesn't say anything about developers: WWDC is a million crappy tech bloggers live blogging about the latest unveiling. Android simply doesn't have that. The devices are released frequently and uneventfully. Though note that Google I/O sold out very early (well in the early bird period). And here's the best part: No one who signed up knew they were getting ANY free phone, much less two. So when someone says "See they had to bribe you to be here", it doesn't really wash given that the bribe wasn't known until you were already there. Google wants developers developing and testing on the top devices, so they give them out.

ben1040 16y ago
There was at least a little precedent in that Google gave phones to I/O attendees last year and established that it was not out of the realm of possibilities they might do it again. That said I did not buy my ticket to I/O this year under the assumption that I would get a phone, and I intend to go next year -- the value I got from the talks is still more than the price of admission and I couldn't care less if I got a phone out of it.
wmf 16y ago
No one who signed up knew they were getting ANY free phone, much less two. Google gave away phones at I/O last year as well as several other Android developer events, so it's not hard to predict that they'll keep doing it until they are satisfied with Android developer mindshare.
- ergo98 16y ago
  >Google gave away phones at I/O last year Knowing and hoping are different things. This year I/O sold out very quickly. I got around to signing up, during the early bird period, and my dreams and hopes were dashed by a registration full notice.
stevejohnson 16y ago
Clearly, your only experience with WWDC was the keynote. If you had bothered to look into anything else about the conference, you would know that the entire rest of the week is filled with tech talks about relevant technologies (both newly announced and pre-existing) and labs staffed by every breed of Apple engineer. What I'm trying to say is that WWDC has not been overrun by "non-developers." The keynote is the only part of the event open to the press, and they exploit it as much as they can, but the rest of the conference really is devoted to working with useful, relevant technology. This is not to say that WWDC is better or worse than I/O, just that bloggers have not hijacked the event from real developers.
- ergo98 16y ago
  >The keynote is the only part of the event open to the press What's with the WWDC defensiveness? Seriously, relax. They keynote sees a lot of press, many of whom got press passes. Yet it also sees a lot of less credible press (e.g. Gizmodo) who buy standard event tickets, clogging a spot, to be there. The same thing happened at I/O. And I've met enough non-developers who were sent there for whatever reason to realize that it isn't the core of developers.

by ergo98 16y ago

ben1040 16y ago

There was at least a little precedent in that Google gave phones to I/O attendees last year and established that it was not out of the realm of possibilities they might do it again. That said I did not buy my ticket to I/O this year under the assumption that I would get a phone, and I intend to go next year -- the value I got from the talks is still more than the price of admission and I couldn't care less if I got a phone out of it.

wmf 16y ago

No one who signed up knew they were getting ANY free phone, much less two. Google gave away phones at I/O last year as well as several other Android developer events, so it's not hard to predict that they'll keep doing it until they are satisfied with Android developer mindshare.

ergo98 16y ago
>Google gave away phones at I/O last year Knowing and hoping are different things. This year I/O sold out very quickly. I got around to signing up, during the early bird period, and my dreams and hopes were dashed by a registration full notice.

stevejohnson 16y ago

Clearly, your only experience with WWDC was the keynote. If you had bothered to look into anything else about the conference, you would know that the entire rest of the week is filled with tech talks about relevant technologies (both newly announced and pre-existing) and labs staffed by every breed of Apple engineer. What I'm trying to say is that WWDC has not been overrun by "non-developers." The keynote is the only part of the event open to the press, and they exploit it as much as they can, but the rest of the conference really is devoted to working with useful, relevant technology. This is not to say that WWDC is better or worse than I/O, just that bloggers have not hijacked the event from real developers.

ergo98 16y ago
>The keynote is the only part of the event open to the press What's with the WWDC defensiveness? Seriously, relax. They keynote sees a lot of press, many of whom got press passes. Yet it also sees a lot of less credible press (e.g. Gizmodo) who buy standard event tickets, clogging a spot, to be there. The same thing happened at I/O. And I've met enough non-developers who were sent there for whatever reason to realize that it isn't the core of developers.