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I offered an anecdote, which I did not claim was an argument. Please don't be deliberately uncharitable. Did you check the results of your yelp search? that's

I offered an anecdote, which I did not claim was an argument. Please don't be deliberately uncharitable. Did you check the results of your yelp search? that's 2 restaurants that are actually in Chinatown and actually serve sushi. An unusually small number for a neighborhood with one of the highest density of restaurants in the city. Did you read the wiki article you linked? this sentence is in the summary: "While versions of it are thought to have existed in China, the contemporary version was created and popularised[citation needed] in the 1960s amongst the ethnic Chinese community and its consumption has been associated with Chinese New Year festivities in Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore." It's modern, and is a holiday feast meal served primarily by the Cantonese diaspora population. This isn't popular everyday eating, and is basically unknown on the mainland.

ithinkinstereo 9y ago
That's true that raw seafood is absent in pre-1960s cuisine. But that's pretty much the case in all cuisines (after all, historically raw meat/fish = disease). Even contemporary sushi/sashimi was not popularized in Japanese cuisine until relatively recently during the Edo period (1700s-late 1800s). Pre-edo times, "raw" fish was mostly preserved fish. In regards to Chinatown, it's worth noting that many Chinese (and Korean) seafood restaurants also serve raw seafood (sashimi, poke, oysters, raw clams, etc.) Perhaps Yelp is being too liberal with what they define as "Chinatown", but a quick pass on Yelp with the "Chinatown" area checked, returned the following: Japanese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 * https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-y... * https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 Chinese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york? * https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 Fusion: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york

ithinkinstereo 9y ago

That's true that raw seafood is absent in pre-1960s cuisine. But that's pretty much the case in all cuisines (after all, historically raw meat/fish = disease). Even contemporary sushi/sashimi was not popularized in Japanese cuisine until relatively recently during the Edo period (1700s-late 1800s). Pre-edo times, "raw" fish was mostly preserved fish. In regards to Chinatown, it's worth noting that many Chinese (and Korean) seafood restaurants also serve raw seafood (sashimi, poke, oysters, raw clams, etc.) Perhaps Yelp is being too liberal with what they define as "Chinatown", but a quick pass on Yelp with the "Chinatown" area checked, returned the following: Japanese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 * https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-y... * https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 Chinese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york? * https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 Fusion: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york