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Your observations basically boil down to "my co-worker, who is Chinese, does not like raw fish, therefore..." There are plenty of sushi restaurants in Chinatow

Your observations basically boil down to "my co-worker, who is Chinese, does not like raw fish, therefore..." There are plenty of sushi restaurants in Chinatown: https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=sushi&start=0&l=p:NY:New_York:Manhattan:Chinatown https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=sushi&start=0&l=p:NY:N... There are also traditional - and popular - Chinese dishes that involve raw fish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusheng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusheng You have to understand that Chinese people are huge gluttons (I say this without any judgement). They love to eat.. there are even idioms about it! 1) http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/they_eat_anything_with_legs_except_a_table_and_anything_with_wings_except_a http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/they...

et-al 9y ago
re: Yunsheng > Place of origin: Singapore Generally, when we say Chinese, we refer to mainland China and Taiwan, not the Chinese Diaspora. This would be like saying Indian people love chicken tikka masala.
- ithinkinstereo 9y ago
  That was one example. My personal favorite is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_shrimp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_shrimp
metaphorm 9y ago
I offered an anecdote, which I did not claim was an argument. Please don't be deliberately uncharitable. Did you check the results of your yelp search? that's 2 restaurants that are actually in Chinatown and actually serve sushi. An unusually small number for a neighborhood with one of the highest density of restaurants in the city. Did you read the wiki article you linked? this sentence is in the summary: "While versions of it are thought to have existed in China, the contemporary version was created and popularised[citation needed] in the 1960s amongst the ethnic Chinese community and its consumption has been associated with Chinese New Year festivities in Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore." It's modern, and is a holiday feast meal served primarily by the Cantonese diaspora population. This isn't popular everyday eating, and is basically unknown on the mainland.
- ithinkinstereo 9y ago
  That's true that raw seafood is absent in pre-1960s cuisine. But that's pretty much the case in all cuisines (after all, historically raw meat/fish = disease). Even contemporary sushi/sashimi was not popularized in Japanese cuisine until relatively recently during the Edo period (1700s-late 1800s). Pre-edo times, "raw" fish was mostly preserved fish. In regards to Chinatown, it's worth noting that many Chinese (and Korean) seafood restaurants also serve raw seafood (sashimi, poke, oysters, raw clams, etc.) Perhaps Yelp is being too liberal with what they define as "Chinatown", but a quick pass on Yelp with the "Chinatown" area checked, returned the following: Japanese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 * https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-y... * https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 Chinese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york? * https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 Fusion: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york

et-al 9y ago

re: Yunsheng > Place of origin: Singapore Generally, when we say Chinese, we refer to mainland China and Taiwan, not the Chinese Diaspora. This would be like saying Indian people love chicken tikka masala.

ithinkinstereo 9y ago
That was one example. My personal favorite is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_shrimp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_shrimp

metaphorm 9y ago

I offered an anecdote, which I did not claim was an argument. Please don't be deliberately uncharitable. Did you check the results of your yelp search? that's 2 restaurants that are actually in Chinatown and actually serve sushi. An unusually small number for a neighborhood with one of the highest density of restaurants in the city. Did you read the wiki article you linked? this sentence is in the summary: "While versions of it are thought to have existed in China, the contemporary version was created and popularised[citation needed] in the 1960s amongst the ethnic Chinese community and its consumption has been associated with Chinese New Year festivities in Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore." It's modern, and is a holiday feast meal served primarily by the Cantonese diaspora population. This isn't popular everyday eating, and is basically unknown on the mainland.

ithinkinstereo 9y ago
That's true that raw seafood is absent in pre-1960s cuisine. But that's pretty much the case in all cuisines (after all, historically raw meat/fish = disease). Even contemporary sushi/sashimi was not popularized in Japanese cuisine until relatively recently during the Edo period (1700s-late 1800s). Pre-edo times, "raw" fish was mostly preserved fish. In regards to Chinatown, it's worth noting that many Chinese (and Korean) seafood restaurants also serve raw seafood (sashimi, poke, oysters, raw clams, etc.) Perhaps Yelp is being too liberal with what they define as "Chinatown", but a quick pass on Yelp with the "Chinatown" area checked, returned the following: Japanese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 https://www.yelp.com/biz/alin-sushi-new-york-4 * https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/mika-japanese-cuisine-and-bar-new-y... * https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/gohan-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/aplus-sushi-new-york-2 Chinese restaurants: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/pings-seafood-new-york? * https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/oriental-garden-restaurant-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 https://www.yelp.com/biz/chinese-tuxedo-new-york-2 Fusion: * https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/cutting-board-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/bar-belly-new-york * https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york https://www.yelp.com/biz/dimes-deli-new-york