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I think you're missing the point. Children don't need to worry about breaking AdSense rules and getting their accounts blocked, especially if they have account
by opportune 10y ago
I think you're missing the point.
Children don't need to worry about breaking AdSense rules and getting their accounts blocked, especially if they have accounts dedicated for school.
Children also will have internet at school.
- BatFastard 10y agoExactly, these are single purpose laptops for education. And I do believe that google docs has an offline mode now. So they can work offline for a limited period (at least). And how does this 1000 USD compete with 250 USD boxes?
- rubyn00bie 10y agoThe way it likely competes (which I'm not saying I agree with) is on supportability and productivity. That is to say, I'm sure Microsoft has data that "shows" these will be cheaper to administrate and support than Chromebooks. Combine that with all the software you can install, or offline workflows, etc and Microsoft comes out on top (according to Microsoft). It's how Microsoft has always done things. I'm not here saying it's right or wrong, I'm just trying to answer your question.
- shimon 10y agoActually, this is more like the opposite of how Microsoft has always done things. When they've entered markets, from OS to word processing to RDBMS to web browsers, they've consistently produced simpler, cheaper products. Then they've gradually improved them until they became credible competitors and often dominant choices. With phones, tablets, and now cheap school laptops, their timing didn't allow that. Google has already succeeded with the classic Microsoft strategy, all the way down to commoditizing the hardware vendors. Microsoft is instead coming in as a semi-premium option, combined with inertia/safety as a brand trusted by enterprises. The same play is a bit more successful in cloud computing, but they're still losing to AWS who are nailing the classic Microsoft strategy. Assuming they continue to decline in their ability to rapid-follow in new technology platforms, I expect they'll look more and more like Oracle and IBM.
- jasikpark 10y agoIt doesn't. The $139 windows laptop Microsoft is coming out with later this year will.
- kodfodrasz 10y agoThis sound very interesting! Could you please provide some link to back up this claim?
- Analemma_ 10y agoWindows 10 S will run on other devices besides the Surface Laptop, most of which will cost closer to $250. The Surface is just the flagship device for it.
- BatFastard 10y agoI just dont get why I would ever spent 1000 USD on a model that does less than the Surface for a similar price.
- zepto 10y agoBut we should worry about google building advertising profiles on children, as they have been doing.
- opportune 10y agoVery true, I was thinking of Chromebooks purely from a utility standpoint, but if parts of Google's plan is to build profiles on children starting from when they're young, that is actually especially nefarious. I'm worried most of all that Google will use some sort of sentiment analysis or other machine learning tool to classify kids based on academic ability and build a sort of "cognitive profile" on children as they age.
- ixacto 10y agoThis is really disturbing. Pretty much the literal definition of "hook em wile they're young. I am starting to think we need a standard oil style breakup of google/amazon/fb.
- donalhunt 10y agoI do not believe this statement to be true. The privacy notice provided by Google for their G Suite for Education is available here: https://gsuite.google.com/terms/education_privacy.html https://gsuite.google.com/terms/education_privacy.html It clearly states "Google does not serve ads in the Core Services or use personal information collected in the Core Services for advertising purposes." Is the evidence that indicates this is not true? Is this in relation to non-core services that school administrators may opt into?
- morganvachon 10y agoThey aren't using it for advertising purposes right now, but they can still collect and store the data on children thanks to outdated privacy laws. Once the child comes of age all of that information is fair game according to their own policy (once the child becomes an adult, if they continue to use their account or link it to a new Google account, they are automatically under Google's normal privacy policy which we all know allows them to harvest everything you do within their services). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/12/28/google-is-tracking-students-as-it-sells-more-products-to-schools-privacy-advocates-warn/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2015/12/28...
- krzyk 10y agoI didn't know that there are special accounts, I assumed they are reusing their own. If it is like a corporate accounts in other places then yes, no need to worry about blocking the account.
- aaronbasssett 10y agoThey don't use their personal accounts. Accounts are managed for students in much the same way as the would be for a business hosted with Google Apps - https://edu.google.com/ https://edu.google.com/
- natch 10y agoMy child lost her firstname.lastname gmail/Google account for life for a one-time childish mistake. So, I guess you are mistaken.
- PuffinBlue 10y agoAnd what was this one-time childish mistake that lead to losing the account?
- adamking 10y agoI'm curious as well. There's little a child, let alone an adult, could that would result in a permaban.
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- CamperBob2 10y agoSee the story the other day, where someone discovered the hard way what happens if you registered your PayPal account before you turned 18.
- IsmaOlvey 10y agoThe story, for anyone else wondering what was referred to: https://hackernoon.com/paypal-is-still-one-of-the-worst-online-examples-of-customer-service-42f3c13f6cd0 https://hackernoon.com/paypal-is-still-one-of-the-worst-onli...
- s73ver 10y agoSpammed AdSense with fraudulent clicks, and impersonated other apps in the Play Store.
- natch 10y agoShe saw a chain email (i.e. forward this to 10 people!) and decided it would be fun to make up her own. Apparently it was successful enough to get somebody's attention. Edit: To be clear, I would never blame them for wanting to stop a cascading explosion of emails. But I also wouldn't say it's impossible for a child to get an account banned.