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Not the only downside. Machine looks great but that fabric material in the keyboard looks like it will be easily stained with sweat (a common problem with surfa

Not the only downside. Machine looks great but that fabric material in the keyboard looks like it will be easily stained with sweat (a common problem with surface pro keyboards). No USB-C seems like a big missed opportunity as well.

BinaryIdiot 9y ago
> a common problem with surface pro keyboards Hmm, I thought the fabric was a nice touch. I've had my surface pro for a few years now and have never even come close to staining the keyboard. I wonder how common this issue really is.
- taternuts 9y ago
  It probably depends on the person and how much they sweat; I'd imagine I sweat more than the average person and I'd be nervous about staining this.
  - artursapek 9y ago
    Don't get too nervous - it will just make you sweat more
  - wklauss 9y ago
    And, more important, how much they type. I'd say that for a machine aimed at teenagers this might not be a good idea. Time will tell.
    - 72deluxe 9y ago
      As a teenager I had a sweaty spotty face and armpits and stank, had a chronic hairdo, poor social skills etc. but I do not remember my hands being sweaty. Were yours? Thankfully I am past all that now, apart form the chronic hairdo, the spotty face, poor personal hygiene, awful social skills....... etc. etc....
      - wklauss 9y ago
        They don't have to be constantly sweaty. repeated friction and skin oil from palm of hands is enough to discolor palm rests in normal laptops. This is an even easier surface to discolor / stain. It will depend on how much you type, of course, and it will be different for different people but I wish they'd have chosen another material even though this one looks gorgeous.
- jdietrich 9y ago
  Sweat is enormously varied in composition. Some guitarists can corrode a brand new set of strings in a matter of hours, while others can play for weeks on the same set. Some people have sweat that's acidic enough to turn a silver flute black or strip the lacquer from a violin.
jclardy 9y ago
Yeah, if this laptop were cheaper I could forgive that. But it is 2017, this laptop starts at $1k and quickly rises but only has USB3 and mini display port. Change the mDP to Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C and i'd be sold. Or drop the proprietary charger and stick another USB-C port on that side and use it for charging.
- baobrain 9y ago
  The proprietary charger is magnetic and makes me less concerned about someone tripping over it. Plugging it in and unplugging it is also much easier imo. This is one of the few occasions where I hope they stick with their proprietary charger, similar to Apple with magsafe. Edit: ninja
mmanfrin 9y ago
No USB-C is a dealbreaker. I understand not going only-USB-C, but to not ship with any C ports is ridiculous.
Yhippa 9y ago
Saw one today. Also concerned about the fabric material fraying at the edges. Doesn't seem easy to replace.
- wklauss 9y ago
  It's glued so no, not possible to replace.

BinaryIdiot 9y ago

> a common problem with surface pro keyboards Hmm, I thought the fabric was a nice touch. I've had my surface pro for a few years now and have never even come close to staining the keyboard. I wonder how common this issue really is.

taternuts 9y ago
It probably depends on the person and how much they sweat; I'd imagine I sweat more than the average person and I'd be nervous about staining this.
- artursapek 9y ago
  Don't get too nervous - it will just make you sweat more
- wklauss 9y ago
  And, more important, how much they type. I'd say that for a machine aimed at teenagers this might not be a good idea. Time will tell.
  - 72deluxe 9y ago
    As a teenager I had a sweaty spotty face and armpits and stank, had a chronic hairdo, poor social skills etc. but I do not remember my hands being sweaty. Were yours? Thankfully I am past all that now, apart form the chronic hairdo, the spotty face, poor personal hygiene, awful social skills....... etc. etc....
    - wklauss 9y ago
      They don't have to be constantly sweaty. repeated friction and skin oil from palm of hands is enough to discolor palm rests in normal laptops. This is an even easier surface to discolor / stain. It will depend on how much you type, of course, and it will be different for different people but I wish they'd have chosen another material even though this one looks gorgeous.
jdietrich 9y ago
Sweat is enormously varied in composition. Some guitarists can corrode a brand new set of strings in a matter of hours, while others can play for weeks on the same set. Some people have sweat that's acidic enough to turn a silver flute black or strip the lacquer from a violin.

jclardy 9y ago

Yeah, if this laptop were cheaper I could forgive that. But it is 2017, this laptop starts at $1k and quickly rises but only has USB3 and mini display port. Change the mDP to Thunderbolt 3 or USB-C and i'd be sold. Or drop the proprietary charger and stick another USB-C port on that side and use it for charging.

baobrain 9y ago
The proprietary charger is magnetic and makes me less concerned about someone tripping over it. Plugging it in and unplugging it is also much easier imo. This is one of the few occasions where I hope they stick with their proprietary charger, similar to Apple with magsafe. Edit: ninja

mmanfrin 9y ago

No USB-C is a dealbreaker. I understand not going only-USB-C, but to not ship with any C ports is ridiculous.

Yhippa 9y ago

Saw one today. Also concerned about the fabric material fraying at the edges. Doesn't seem easy to replace.

wklauss 9y ago
It's glued so no, not possible to replace.