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this would be my dream laptop if it ran linux out of the box. I really wish a linux laptop with this type of design was put out for an affordable price, I real

by fosco 9y ago

this would be my dream laptop if it ran linux out of the box. I really wish a linux laptop with this type of design was put out for an affordable price, I really think its a major opportunity for a large business market there. I think there is a lot of room for improvement on the "librem' laptops...

haswell 9y ago
The Dell XPS 13 mostly fits the bill in terms of design. The Linux support is excellent.
- exclusiv 9y ago
  I second that. Love my XPS developer edition.
- eikenberry 9y ago
  They look great except for the battery, it sucks.
  - 72deluxe 9y ago
    Is that Linux' fault though instead of the Dell itself? I mean, Mac OS has app nap and I noticed the difference on the same hardware after OSX 10.whatever introduced it (I got an hour extra battery life!). When I reboot the same hardware into Windows, I get worse battery life than under Mac OS, obviously doing different things and an entirely different architecture (RPC, COM calls etc.) but I know it's not the hardware at fault. Is Linux architecture at fault for the Dell? Just curious. I wonder if there is significantly different battery life for the same machine running different OS (eg. Windows vs Linux).
    - eikenberry 9y ago
      I was talking raw WHr rating, not power usage. Linux's mediocre power management is one of the reasons I put extra emphasis on the battery when shopping for a laptop. My t450s w/ the 6 cell external has 72WHr vs the XPS13 of that time had 54WHr. Plus my Lenovo battery is hot-swappable. They have improved upon this some as the current XPS13 has 60WHr. But they still are lacking in this area.
lorenzhs 9y ago
If you're willing to comprimise on price, the new ThinkPad X1 Carbon is a fantastic Linux business laptop.
- noatime 9y ago
  The ThinkPad X1 Carbon had just been "coreboot" supported ( so it will be soon the libreboot best/newest one ? ) : that's one big add-point to Linux . ( Sorry if I misunderstood something , it's my first post and I'm not so geeky :) , english too is not my native language )
  - lorenzhs 9y ago
    The model supported by coreboot is the first generation X1 Carbon, which is 4-5 years old now. I'm talking about the 5th generation, which has only been available for a few months.
    - noatime 9y ago
      @lorezhs : Thanks.
    - city41 9y ago
      Any idea if the trackpad is better? I have three Thinkpads (including the previous Carbon), all running Linux, and the trackpads are just terrible. I'm spoiled because I'm used to the MacBook trackpad.
      - dm319 9y ago
        the 5th gen uses the microsoft precision standard (i.e. sends the raw input to the OS to interpret) - reported to be as good as the surface book, and close to macbook.
      - lorenzhs 9y ago
        I don't use it (I'm a big fan of the trackpoint), but the trackpad's surface feels very pleasant. Can't comment on the accuracy, I probably wouldn't even be able to properly judge or compare it to the MacBook, but I've heard good things from other people.

by fosco 9y ago

haswell 9y ago

The Dell XPS 13 mostly fits the bill in terms of design. The Linux support is excellent.

exclusiv 9y ago
I second that. Love my XPS developer edition.
eikenberry 9y ago
They look great except for the battery, it sucks.
- 72deluxe 9y ago
  Is that Linux' fault though instead of the Dell itself? I mean, Mac OS has app nap and I noticed the difference on the same hardware after OSX 10.whatever introduced it (I got an hour extra battery life!). When I reboot the same hardware into Windows, I get worse battery life than under Mac OS, obviously doing different things and an entirely different architecture (RPC, COM calls etc.) but I know it's not the hardware at fault. Is Linux architecture at fault for the Dell? Just curious. I wonder if there is significantly different battery life for the same machine running different OS (eg. Windows vs Linux).
  - eikenberry 9y ago
    I was talking raw WHr rating, not power usage. Linux's mediocre power management is one of the reasons I put extra emphasis on the battery when shopping for a laptop. My t450s w/ the 6 cell external has 72WHr vs the XPS13 of that time had 54WHr. Plus my Lenovo battery is hot-swappable. They have improved upon this some as the current XPS13 has 60WHr. But they still are lacking in this area.

lorenzhs 9y ago

If you're willing to comprimise on price, the new ThinkPad X1 Carbon is a fantastic Linux business laptop.

noatime 9y ago
The ThinkPad X1 Carbon had just been "coreboot" supported ( so it will be soon the libreboot best/newest one ? ) : that's one big add-point to Linux . ( Sorry if I misunderstood something , it's my first post and I'm not so geeky :) , english too is not my native language )
- lorenzhs 9y ago
  The model supported by coreboot is the first generation X1 Carbon, which is 4-5 years old now. I'm talking about the 5th generation, which has only been available for a few months.
  - noatime 9y ago
    @lorezhs : Thanks.
  - city41 9y ago
    Any idea if the trackpad is better? I have three Thinkpads (including the previous Carbon), all running Linux, and the trackpads are just terrible. I'm spoiled because I'm used to the MacBook trackpad.
    - dm319 9y ago
      the 5th gen uses the microsoft precision standard (i.e. sends the raw input to the OS to interpret) - reported to be as good as the surface book, and close to macbook.
    - lorenzhs 9y ago
      I don't use it (I'm a big fan of the trackpoint), but the trackpad's surface feels very pleasant. Can't comment on the accuracy, I probably wouldn't even be able to properly judge or compare it to the MacBook, but I've heard good things from other people.