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Poorly educated or badly educated? Badly educated would indicate that the education is based on incorrect facts or processes. Poorly educated would indicate
by csours 10y ago
Poorly educated or badly educated?
Badly educated would indicate that the education is based on incorrect facts or processes.
Poorly educated would indicate that there may not be enough education, etc.
- bognition 10y agoDepending on where we are talking about both are a real problem (at least in the United States)
- thrownblown 10y agoPaying attention is a skill that needs to be taught in school. It's hardly the fault of the student if the schools don't engage and challenge them. The American education system fed me lie after lie after lie. All public schools teach lies, some even don't even pretend and teach creationism.
- quirkot 10y agoI am reminded of my chemistry professor's lament. "I can't count how many students I've failed for not knowing things that were later proven to be untrue"
- thrownblown 10y agoYou had a chemistry classes in a public school? You're lucky. No English teacher would write that sentence.
- Nihilartikel 10y agoI can understand the spirit and frustration of the lament, but it presents the hazard of the unhelpful and fallacious interpretation that "I might as well not teach them any of this in the first place since some of it might end up just being wrong!" Science is not about always being right. It is about knowing and building upon the best knowledge available, while maintaining the intellectual humility and curiosity to continually challenge the best available knowledge and revise it towards a measurably better state. That is how the mountain is climbed.
- markwaldron 10y agoYou state that the education system taught you lies, and then generalize that all public schools teach lies. Did you attend every public school in the nation?
- thrownblown 10y agoI attended a great public high school staffed by a faculty that, for the most part, actually cared about the people they raised into their community. Some of them had good intentions with their lies (Creationists), but they're still lies. Regardless, it was overflowing with lies. Especially history.
- SaintGhurka 10y agoWould you mind identifying where? And when you went to school where they were teaching creationism? I hate to challenge you on that, but really, where is this actually done in the US?
- thrownblown 10y agoHuntland TN.
- ams6110 10y agoThe real problem is that public education for the last few decades has been focused on the college-bound student. If your background, family financial status, or academic record indicate that you are not going to college, you are a non-entity (possible exception if you are athletically gifted). If you are not college-bound you get no real attention or guidance. You are not taught about entrepreneurship, trades, or other options that might be good for you. You are not taught about managing money, personal finance, the traps of high-interest credit debt, or anything else practical. It's assumed you'll put in your time and "graduate" (or simply drop out), get some menial job, and that's your life. Nobody spares ten seconds of thought on you if you are not college-bound.
- devonkim 10y agoPaying attention is something that some students frequently have doing because their home life is so terrible and "teaching it" is already a problem. Students in many underserved communities come to school having trouble sleeping or eating, and this destroys performance in school. Most teachers overwhelmed with behavioral problems while trying to teach completely nonsensical curriculums established by non-educators simply punish these students with in school suspension or detention which further ostracizes these students that are oftentimes already picked on by peers. Blaming schools entirely for root causes sometimes stemming from students coming from bad home lives is nonsensical just as much as it is to remove blame from students for their individual performance. Our most often cited statistics simply don't do a good job of decoupling social factors of aggregate academic achievement from the variables schools themselves do control.
- Afforess 10y agoBadly. Education processes are not built around learning, nor around meta-learning (learning how to learn new information). Education is still built largely around _retaining_, testing, and hoarding knowledge, without interest in discovery or the processes that created knowledge. This medieval mindset holds back much of the education system. A larger essay on many of the problems and sources of these problems: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/23/ssc-gives-a-graduation-speech/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/23/ssc-gives-a-graduation-...
- samirillian 10y agoBut I don't think that was the author's intention. Uneducated would have sufficed.
- Afforess 10y agoI don't think undereducation is correct here. You could spend 50 years re-experiencing K-12 education in America and that will not earn you skills that are simply not taught there.
- samirillian 10y agoYeah, but then the premise is just a tautology: education that doesn't teach you what we consider important is a bad education. I mean, it's a lot of energy to spend thinking about a such a poorly-conceived essay. Or is it badly conceived?
- ams6110 10y agoI do think it's badly, particularly if you are not a college-bound student. If you're not going to college, you are a write-off in today's public education system.